http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/ Engadget Comments for Samsung L870 S60 slider features Webkit-based browser http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 5:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 7:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/
wow
]]>May 28th 2008 5:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 5:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 6:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 12:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 3:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 6:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/
when is the next plane to europe....]]>May 28th 2008 6:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 6:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 6:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 6:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/
Anyways, I'll bet you that this browser(aswell as the iPhone's browser) that the Engadget boys are getting erections over is still technically inferior to that of the E90's or N95 8GB's browser.]]>May 28th 2008 6:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 7:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/
However the best,most full-featured mobile browser has to be Opera Mobile 9.5, as implemented on the HTC Diamond. Hands down the best.]]>May 28th 2008 7:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/
Another vote for this being the exact same S60 browser, with the name (a trademark, incidentally, so if anyone drops Apple Legal a line they may have to change it) just to make people think it's cooler than it is..]]>May 28th 2008 9:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/
just for the record, I too, think the S60 browser is better]]>May 28th 2008 12:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/
Like Microsoft, Apple (read: Steve Jobs) has a pretty strong "hoarding" mentality, and rarely gives away anything when he believes that will give others (competitors?) an advantage. So while the "Darwin" core of Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD, any and all components that were developed by Apple (starting with the Aqua user inferface) remains strictly under Apple control.

Symbian is a slightly different beast. It is not open source by any means (after all, Symbian Ltd, do have a business to run selling their OS to phone vendors), but both Symbian as well as its major shareholder, Nokia, are eager to see their platform being used across the phones from multiple vendors. No altruism involved, of course, just a different line of thinking from Steve Jobs (since Nokia tend to differentiate their products based on hardware and capabilities more than the slickness of the UI).

]]>May 28th 2008 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 12:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/
In either case, what I said pertains to the WebKit rendering engine, and not "Safari" or "Mobile Safari". Those are trademarked by Apple.

FWIW, the user-agent string from my Nokia N95-4 (8GB NAM) is:

Mozilla/5.0 (SymbianOS/92.; U; Series60/3.1 NokiaN5_8GB-3/20.2.005 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 ) AppleWebKit/413 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/413

]]>May 28th 2008 12:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 2:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 6:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 9:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/Why did they leave Symbian anyway years ago, it is the right way to go. Anyway, they realized it now.]]>May 28th 2008 6:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/So it would probally serve them better if the number 2 mobile phone manufacturer would have it's own platform or at least wouldnt be paying anything to Nokia from it's hit phones.]]>May 28th 2008 7:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/But I'm not a marketing expert, I was just saying that Samsung has come with something decent featuring Symbian, which they shouldn't have left using for a few years anyway, from a "customer"s perspective.]]>May 28th 2008 8:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 6:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/
It's Apple we're talking about here, a company that has never been known for being great in collaborations...]]>May 28th 2008 7:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/
Taligent. ;-)]]>May 28th 2008 7:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/
Seeing as it's a Samsung, it'll probably also be much more expensive than Nokia alternatives....

By the way, there's no mention of WiFi???]]>May 28th 2008 6:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/
Price, maybe?
Everyone is not financially powerful enough to afford Nokia.
Yeah, Nokia is way better, but think of the budget.]]>May 28th 2008 8:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 10:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/
A Web-Kit browers I understand. i.e. the Safari rendering engine, with their own UI on top.

But "Safari" suggests its not only WebKit, but also the UI and functionality on top of that that Apple have that they consider to be "Safari"

Its remotely possible I guess, being officailly "Safari" may up the useage stats and get people more aware, rather than splitting Safari into that and WebKit.]]>May 28th 2008 6:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 7:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 7:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 9:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/
So how exactly is this big news?]]>May 28th 2008 7:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 7:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 7:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/
Having said that, I think Safari Mobile (on my iPod Touch) is the best mobile browser by far -- even compared to Opera Mini 4 on my SE phone.]]>May 28th 2008 7:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/So Nokia's only "helping" those statistics. The iPhone and iPod touch browser-share statistics are legit.]]>May 28th 2008 10:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/
"Like a tailored pair of suit"

What? What's a pair of suit? Do they mean trousers? I think we should be told.]]>May 28th 2008 11:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 7:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 7:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 7:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 7:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/Could be a real hit.]]>May 28th 2008 7:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://svn.webkit.org/repository/webkit/S60/trunk/

They've at least done it properly and made there own svn tree for their custom version...]]>May 28th 2008 8:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 10:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/samsung-l870-s60-slider-features-mobile-safari-browser/May 28th 2008 9:07AM