http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/ Engadget Comments for ElectraTherm's Green Machine converts waste heat into electricity http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/
I think you mean _left_ of the decimal. Anything to the right of the decimal has a maximum changing effect of 99 cents.

$120.52
$120.5200000000000000000000000000000000000000

Same number.]]>Jun 1st 2008 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/Jun 1st 2008 2:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/
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That's the continental Europeans, we have a decimal point too..]]>Jun 1st 2008 5:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/Jun 1st 2008 8:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/Jun 2nd 2008 2:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/Jun 1st 2008 3:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/Jun 1st 2008 3:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/Jun 1st 2008 4:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/Jun 1st 2008 4:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/
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You wouldn't even have combustion engine production without Tesla's AC electric motor. Steam vehicles came about long before then. Electric cars dominated the market (9 to 1 in ownership) and held all land speed records for some 70 years. Next you'll try to tell me that gasoline was the first fuel used in a combustion engine. You all fail American History 101.]]>Jun 1st 2008 5:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/Jun 1st 2008 5:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/
So, don't compare electric motors with combustion motors without calculating the efficiency of generating that electricity in the first place. We could use a car's combustion motor to turn a crank of a generator and store the energy electrically to power the car at 95% efficiency... but that would be pointless.

This device converts wasted industrial heat to usable energy. This is effective when the amount of heat being given off is enough to justify the cost of the device. At three years to break-even some companies will consider this. However, they could also just invest the same $$$ and earn 8-10% from day 1.]]>Jun 1st 2008 5:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/
Steam is nothing but a waste heat generator. It's old tech.]]>Jun 1st 2008 6:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/
Electric has been sidelined because of battery technology and frankly we're not there. Now toss in the inability to generate heat in the winter and the market has spoke. There's no 'big oil' conspiracy. Just a technology that made sense before people understood pollution, global warming, and peak oil.

Even today electric cars as we know them are a pretty big compromise. Hybrid seems a good choice for the present climate, but I wouldnt be surprised to see electric take over. That is after we build a whole heck of a lot of nuclear plants and retire all our coal plants first. Solar will not cut it. On top of it the idea of the automobile is past due. Ideally many US cities can work on public trans options to cut down on car demand.
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The free market cannot address this problem until it's gotten really, really bad. Bad for everyone. If we wait that long, your grandkids will ride bicycles to work and never know what it's like to fly on an airplane. Or we can support government leadership to prepare for the crisis by investing in new technology and Apollo-like projects.

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http://travel.howstuffworks.com/diesel-locomotive1.htm
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What happened to the carbon nanotube ultracapacitor research from MIT? Why hasn't the State Department given them billions of dollars (the cost of a few bombs) to develop and deploy that crap?]]>Jun 1st 2008 7:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/Jun 1st 2008 6:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/Jun 1st 2008 7:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/Jun 1st 2008 7:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/
Plus, Ormat can't do it at 200 degrees F either.]]>Jun 1st 2008 11:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/Jun 1st 2008 8:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/
"It is every citizen's final duty to go into the tanks and become one with all of the people"]]>Jun 1st 2008 8:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/Jun 29th 2008 10:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/Jun 2nd 2008 11:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/
Nothing is 100% efficient except me making love.]]>Jun 2nd 2008 2:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/
365 days @ 24 Hours = 8760 hours * 3 years = 26280 hours for payback
26280 hours * 4 cents per hours/kw * 50 kwh it produces = $ 5,256,000 does that seem right?]]>Jun 2nd 2008 12:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/Jun 7th 2008 9:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/01/electratherms-green-machine-converts-waste-heat-into-electricit/They claim $.04 cost per kw hour for three years.
They claim $.01 cost per kw hour after the pay back period of three years.
Making assumptions of running 24 hours a day every day for 3 years at rated capacity.
50kw * 24 hours/day * 365 days/year * 3 years; gives us how many kw hours "saved or produced" = 1,314,000.
1,314,000 kw hours * ($.04-$.01)kw/hour = $39,420 cost
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