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But if you check phonearena, you'll see that its not due out until 2009, so I figure there's nothing to be done.

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oftheshrub.org]]>Jun 8th 2008 3:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/
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Correct. All they are doing is emulating MS Method of Operation. Wait for someone to innovate first. Then product a product within a year and call it innovative. Looks like another "me too" product.]]>Jun 8th 2008 4:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/YOUR PRODUCTS ARE TOO DAMN SEXY!!!

I'm still holding out for the Xperia, but this is shaking my faith...]]>Jun 8th 2008 5:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/Jun 8th 2008 7:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/
@ Jubei: please SHUT UP about the idea that this (and every other touchscreen phone) is ripping off Apple / iPhone. Apple made a great UI with multi-touch and accelerometer being the main innovations. But everything else - touchscreen, hi-res screen, Wifi, a browser, email, mp3 playback, video, etc - already existed in smart phones YEARS before the iPhone came along. Great for apple that there are a lot of ignorant people who think that they somehow invented this stuff. But it's not true.

So as there is no evidence yet of multi-touch or accelerometer, please tell us ONE THING that RIM is ripping off of Apple with this? One thing that wasn't already in about 100 other smart phones before the iPhone came along?

thought not...now go back to class!]]>Jun 9th 2008 1:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/Jun 8th 2008 3:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/Jun 8th 2008 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/
THIS IS TOOOOO UNREAL.

*pulls hair out and runs for shelter*]]>Jun 8th 2008 1:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/
Way too many choices....

Opinions would be insightful though.]]>Jun 8th 2008 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/
Like you said, I guess it's just a wait-and-see sort of thing. From the phones you're thinking of, I really cannot get a clear sense of what type of user you are. The iPhone is a consumer device, BB have traditionally been business oriented and WinMo devices normally are a fair compromise. Again, for me Xperia all the way. Thunder isn't an option because I don't have VZW. But if the iPhone II is subsidized....it would look even more attractive.]]>Jun 8th 2008 1:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/
Thanks for the insight.

Basically I'm an all around user.I do plan a lot of events though,txtin is my best friend,official music lover,gamer,and like to mod/hack.
I also dont have a mac,if that makes a difference.

Personally I was leaning towards a Xperia too,especially cause I've been using Ericsson cell's for a while and tend to like them.
But the iphone is a pretty good looking device,and I do love my music and tend not to like huge bulges coming out of my pants on the side due to cell,ipod,etc.

Maybe I''l just get my mum one cell and ill get a different one and basically get to use either whenever i want.]]>Jun 8th 2008 2:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/Jun 8th 2008 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/Jun 8th 2008 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/Jun 8th 2008 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/Jun 8th 2008 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/Jun 8th 2008 1:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/Jun 8th 2008 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/Jun 8th 2008 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/Jun 8th 2008 12:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/
(*sarcasm*)]]>Jun 8th 2008 1:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/
Other WinMo phones are also business phones, the iPhone really isnt
Its meant as and Ipod and a phone not mainly for emails or important business events.]]>Jun 8th 2008 1:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/
I am not at all saying that the iPhone was the first touchscreen phone: it was not. I am not going to say it's features are revolutionary: they aren't...in fact, they're quite lacking. However, did the design of the phone revolutionize the industry? Uhh, YEAH. How many devices can you name with a touchscreen that large, with so few buttons that was intended to be used entirely with a finger--no stylus.

Yeah, the LG Prada did come first. Did Apple copy them? Well, duh, no, just look at the timing of the announcement of both products. They're we about a month apart. Also, the Prada had a stylus if I remember correctly.

Moral of the story, the iPhone was not foretold by Apostles but it's a pretty damn important phone. Is it the best one ever made? Quite debatable (though the answer is no =]). ]]>Jun 8th 2008 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/Jun 8th 2008 4:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/
Now that the technology has finally caught up Apple is able to make a proper touch screen smart phone in the spirt of all those devices that have come before it.

There's a lot of history in tech and I tend to respect those that innovated and tried something new and different over those that just copied a new idea and managed to move more units.


]]>Jun 8th 2008 3:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/Jun 8th 2008 12:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/
'Please say a command'....

Now with 2, I'm sure you'll be escaping out of unwanted applications twice as much.

I think RIM needs to understand the market for the iPhone and the market for a blackberry are extremely different. There are things that they can learn, but don't mimmick.. Try working on the reliability and uptime...]]>Jun 8th 2008 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/I also appreciate the physical keyboard: I can touch type with one thumb if in a jam. Not sure how that would translate to keys on a screen.
Blackberry is a poor multimedia device (music doesn't work through a bluetooth earpiece and video is a joke) so I wonder if they can really compete in this direction.]]>Jun 8th 2008 4:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/
And yes, I used the key lock, but like anyone, I'm infallible. Even when I had it set to lock itself automatically the "p" would still beat it to the punch.

Other than that I'm less thrilled about the trackball than I am the convenience keys. I miss my jog dial, my carpal tunnel-inducing job dial. ]]>Jun 8th 2008 5:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/
In fact, it looks like a diagram from an owner's manual.]]>Jun 8th 2008 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/Jun 8th 2008 4:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/Jun 8th 2008 5:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/Jun 8th 2008 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/
Hmmmm....
I guess the "real" buttons are still there with the many buttons on the side of this model.

Well, you know, call me a fanboi, but I still prefer my iPhone rather than an iPhoney...

Cheers. ]]>Jun 8th 2008 1:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/Jun 8th 2008 1:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/
NEVER.]]>Jun 8th 2008 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/Jun 8th 2008 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/i never knew companies could breathe.

=)]]>Jun 8th 2008 1:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/Jun 8th 2008 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/
Although this Thunder is a great idea, I still can't figure out who RIM is targeting this Thunder for. BlackBerry users only want to use QWERTY keyboards, so why would they upgrade to this model. A BlackBerry user would be lost without the scrollpad. If they are targeting users outside of the BlackBerry realm, those potential buyers will have probably already bought iPhones unless they're not willing to switch carriers. If Thunder is a well-built smartphone, then it will sell in decent numbers, but it just seems like a contradiction for RIM.]]>Jun 8th 2008 1:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/
Yahh trick yahhhhh!]]>Jun 8th 2008 2:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/Jun 8th 2008 1:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/Jun 8th 2008 1:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/Jun 8th 2008 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/
A third party patch? I wish! It seems most of the hacking community is not interested enough to bother with Blackberry patches. I mean I havent yet come across a patch to unlock the GPS on Verizon Pearl yet, and I WOULD be willing to pay for it!

Please someone unlock my GPS?!?!]]>Jun 8th 2008 1:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/08/blackberry-thunder-touchscreen-phone-in-live-shot/http://www.cyberlawonline.com/cyberlawg/general-interest/suit-challenges-verizon-on-blackberry-gps.html

Didn't see any hackers out there either. It -seems- to me that it would just be a matter of modifying the service books... but if it was that easy then someone would have done it already? *shrug*]]>Jun 8th 2008 1:33PM