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Ingenious jab at HD-DVD]]>Jun 10th 2008 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/Jun 10th 2008 1:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/Jun 10th 2008 1:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/
.....and atrophies the mind.]]>Jun 10th 2008 1:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/
MGS2 and MGS3 did not use 2 discs.
MGS was the only game to utilize 2 discs, and those were back in the CD-ROM days.]]>Jun 10th 2008 1:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/
Also had you played MGS2-3 you'd remember they were, in fact, one disc.

The only game I can think of off the top of my head that required 2 DVDs was Star Ocean 3, and that's because it was huge, had full voice acting for tons of characters, and lots of FMV.]]>Jun 10th 2008 1:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/Jun 10th 2008 2:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/1. Can someone name a single xbox 360 game that used 2 discs?
2. What about the original xbox?
3. This is and always was and will be a sony exclusive, why would they compare it to the xbox?
]]>Jun 10th 2008 3:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/
blue dragon has 3 discs
lost odyssey, 4]]>Jun 10th 2008 3:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/
Not that I'm complaining, I think its just a sign of lazy programmers to not be able to fit content into 9gb or whatever.

Take Morrowind for example. The whole game was only 900megs.

For more on why the "size" issue is just FUD spread by Sony (with crap like this in their games), see:
http://www.gamesfirst.com/?id=1132

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Try developing a game before criticising the developers.]]>Jun 10th 2008 4:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/2. What about the original xbox?
3. This is and always was and will be a sony exclusive, why would they compare it to the xbox?"

Exactly. It's not a jab at anyone, they are simply pointing out the benefits of having a HD format game, especially considering they busted their butts to get all that content on there.

No need to imagine up some sort of slander when there is none to be had.]]>Jun 10th 2008 6:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/
I also know that it's significantly EASIER to pre-render your cut scenes, pre-render your textures and include them, or pre-draw all your bump maps. I also know that it IS, as I put it, LAZY.

Yes, getting a realistic looking world built through procedural textures (marketed by Microsoft with their "Procedural Synthesis" libraries) but wonderfully showcased in the 64kb game "theproduct" is more difficult. But a little bit more time and effort yield a better gaming experience and significantly smaller data footprint.
http://www.theproduct.de/

If you can fit Elder Scrolls Oblivion, Mass Effect, and the various Battlefield instances all onto a single disc each that'll run on a machine with NO HARD DRIVE, you explain to me how requiring 51gb of storage on a game is anything but LAZY, unless you're including tons of pre-rendered FMV, in which case as a GAME DEVELOPER you have little to do with that, since it's just handed over by your art department.

But I'm sure you've got great reasons backed up by your University of Phoenix Online degree in "Game Programming" and all the crapware you spit out is made as lean and efficient as possible. You've NEVER taken a little shortcut to save yourself a few hours if it meant a marginal increase in the disc size of a game.

Sorry, do I still sound ignorant? Because you still sound lazy.]]>Jun 10th 2008 6:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/
both Metal Gear Solid 2 - Substance and Metal Gear Solid 3 - Subsistence

were multiple discs.]]>Jun 11th 2008 8:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/Dec 31st 2008 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/Jun 10th 2008 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/
Like some others have said, this is a jab at the first game which had two discs, their referencing the first game and PS1, not taking a jab at the 360.

Jeez.]]>Jun 10th 2008 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/ I didn't think of that at first, but I do remember having to switch discs in MGS 1.

People always complain about having to switch discs but I remember thinking it was awesome at the time of MGS 1!! I was just a little kid, but I felt almost like I was getting two games for the price of one!! lol
That and the game was so damn good, I was just glad it wasn't over yet!]]>Jun 10th 2008 1:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/Jun 10th 2008 1:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/Jun 10th 2008 2:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/Jun 10th 2008 2:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/
It's already been stated they would have liked to have even MORE room to play with, but some people just find the wrong reasons to get mad. Also, FF7 came on 3CDs for the PS1 and 4CDs for the PC release.]]>Jun 10th 2008 4:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/
MGS4 XBOX 360 Box art: http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9026/mgs4xbox360oj1.png]]>Jun 10th 2008 7:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/Jun 10th 2008 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/Jun 10th 2008 12:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/Jun 10th 2008 12:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/Jun 10th 2008 12:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/Jun 10th 2008 1:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/Jun 10th 2008 12:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/Jun 10th 2008 5:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/doesn't it make sense ?]]>Jun 10th 2008 12:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/
That's 3 dual layer DVDs. I'm not saying it'll never happen, but I am saying it's going to be quite a while before it does, if ever.]]>Jun 10th 2008 2:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/No, MGS4 will only be pushing 25-27 GB because Konami requested from Sony to use the first dual-layer BD disc to up it from 25GB to 50GB. They said they were struggling to get it on only 25 GB, so it is likely that it will be about 26GB on a disc.
So there.]]>Jun 10th 2008 3:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/
Can we mark this article as inaccurate?]]>Jun 10th 2008 12:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/Jun 10th 2008 1:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/lol they always put weird things in these MSG games. ]]>Jun 10th 2008 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/
Oh come on.]]>Jun 10th 2008 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/Jun 10th 2008 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/Jun 10th 2008 1:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/Jun 10th 2008 1:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/
< /sarcasm >]]>Jun 10th 2008 3:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/Jun 10th 2008 3:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/
And like others have said, this is a jab at previous MGS games, not the 360. Get over yourselves.]]>Jun 10th 2008 1:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/
Its to get you guys riled up and post your fanboy rants on Engadget.

Clever indeed.]]>Jun 10th 2008 11:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/Jun 10th 2008 1:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/
heck, if the gaming world can be defined as "games I've played", then it would be a rather lonely place, now would it?]]>Jun 10th 2008 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/Jun 10th 2008 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/Jun 10th 2008 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/Jun 10th 2008 1:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/metal-gear-solid-4-plays-favorites-with-dig-at-xbox-360/Jun 10th 2008 1:56PM