http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/ Engadget Comments for HP Pavilion tx2500z Puma-based tablet PC available now http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/
Whuh? What's this about?]]>Jun 11th 2008 6:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/
Dunno why Engadget think it should be mandatory, it's not that popular in a lot of places. Plus the TX's are budget machines, making it optional helps keep the price down.]]>Jun 11th 2008 6:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/Jun 11th 2008 6:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/Jun 11th 2008 6:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/Jun 11th 2008 6:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/
Not a bad thing mind, it's a good sight cheaper than other tablets in the UK.]]>Jun 11th 2008 6:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/]]>Jun 11th 2008 8:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/I assume the engadget/mac fanboys are ripping pissed at this but can't bring themselves to say Apple sucks. This feature rich laptop for a low price must be ripped on somehow without making a negative Apple comment. ]]>Jun 12th 2008 12:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/
Marc]]>Jun 11th 2008 6:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/Meanwhile, shut up!]]>Jun 11th 2008 6:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/The above post is a reply to: FIRSSSSSSSST]]>Jun 11th 2008 6:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/
Bad cpu, what kind of graphics is that? And the resolution, at this point, that should be a joke.

I wanna see some ground breaking stuff here...not the ordinary three-year old tablet...]]>Jun 11th 2008 6:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/Jun 11th 2008 6:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/Its only available in the home section of HPs site.
Kind of obvious when the thing is covered in swirls and other artsy patterns.
Pretty much geared torwards young people.
We'll probably be seeing adds with Gwen steffani or some hiphop artist showing this thing off. ]]>Jun 11th 2008 6:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/Jun 11th 2008 6:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/
I hate it.]]>Jun 11th 2008 6:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/
Tablets are great for reclining in a chair or the couch and just using your pen to tap away at a website, a game, or creative software like video editing. It sure beats using a touch pad. Plus, you can create your own handwritten fonts, make on the spot drawings when you are taking notes, or really easily dragging and dropping files. ]]>Jun 11th 2008 7:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/Jun 11th 2008 8:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/that must be a joke, I've just bought a tx2150ef last saturday :'(
I shouldn't have read the comments in the article about what tablet pc to choose on engadget last week.......

Yet, I wonder if the autonomy is going to be less crappy with the tx2500z than with the tx2150]]>Jun 11th 2008 6:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/]]>Jun 11th 2008 7:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/Jun 11th 2008 11:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/
Just three questions:


1. Does it have an active touchscreen?

2. Is the graphics card, a dedicated one?

3. Does this have FireWire / iEEE 1392?]]>Jun 11th 2008 6:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/
In short...

1. Yes, it has an active wacom digitizer with pen input and a passive touch screen you can use your fingers on.

2. The graphics are dedicated

3. No firewire / iEEE1392]]>Jun 11th 2008 7:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/Jun 11th 2008 7:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/Jun 11th 2008 7:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/Jun 11th 2008 11:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/

I have a Gateway E 295c.


The active touchscreen, with the glass surface, is absolutely wonderful.


]]>Jun 11th 2008 6:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/
the graphics card is integrated, but is widely believed to be the best integrated card available. (mobile 780G chipset)

it does have firewire.

the processor is one of the newer class of turion, thus it's got performance closer to that of the core 2 t7xxx line. core 2 t9xxx still beats it.

it's 12" and the weight can be reduced to 4 lbs when traveling by replacing the dvd drive with a place-holder.]]>Jun 11th 2008 7:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/Jun 11th 2008 7:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/
The screen is grainy because of the passive touchscreen, which is probably pressure-based, thus requiring a soft plastic, easily scratched screen surface.


If the thing had only active touch, the surface would have been a much clearer glass layer. ]]>Jun 11th 2008 7:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/Jun 11th 2008 7:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/
I currently use an HP TX1320 as my main machine, and overall I'm quite pleased with it.

My understanding is that with the TX2000 series, HP has significantly improved the responsiveness of the touchscreen (upgraded to WACOM? Don't know), which is a huge issue with the TX1000 series. Handwritten notes, drawing, etc. are completely impractical on the TX1000; I knew this going in, and only use the touchscreen to manipulate UI elements in tablet mode.

The primary concern for anybody thinking about purchasing this machine is HP's continued use of AMD's Turion processor. I understand that Puma is a new revision of the chip, and perhaps it deals with the problems of its predescesor, but that has yet to be seen. Those problems are 1) Heat 2) Battery life and 3) Underpowered.

1) The TX1000 series gets hot. Not normal laptop hot, but "never leave it running on a remotely flammable surface" hot.
2) Battery life is unacceptable for anyone for whom "mobile computing" means using the laptop in places where you can't plug it in, rather than just moving to different locations in the house. 1- 1.5 hours MAX, even running nothig but office applications and browser.
3) Underpowered for a chip made in 2007. Besides which, on battery power the chip is throttled down to the point where it is literally impossible to play a movie file (particularly itunes purchases). Trying to override this in Vista power settings has no effect (trust me, I spent several hours patiently going through every single advanced power option available).

None of these were dealbreakers for me, but peope need to make sure their planned usage scenarios are compatible with these obstacles.

Again, Puma may resolve all these issues, but I haven't read anything definitively proving it, and until then caution should be used before buying any chip named Turion.]]>Jun 11th 2008 7:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/
@nimby, you can set the unplugged CPU performance in the BIOS. Switch from power saver to performance. Of course, battery life will be even more pathetic ;(]]>Jun 11th 2008 7:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/Jun 11th 2008 7:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/Jun 11th 2008 7:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/Jun 11th 2008 8:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/Jun 11th 2008 8:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/Jun 11th 2008 9:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/
Is it multi-touch ready?
]]>Jun 11th 2008 8:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/in my house, we have all HPs, therefore we have all AMD computers. They are truly, and i mean truly, pathertic. Thismachine i am using is fitted with an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+, which is clocked at 2.2 GHz. It also is supposed to have AMD Live! and it oes not help. The thing, also with a NVIDIA 8800 GT and 2 gigs of ram, con barely run Simcity, none the less any real game. The thing is unbelievably slow. I bought this computer because it was economical and it had AMD Live!, which i thought would be perfect to watch shows that i put on my computer from my tivo. It did nothing. that is why i shelled out large amounts of dough on the 8800.
But for the Lappies, we have one on a turion and one on an Athlon. Since this is Turion, il talk about the one with Turion. It is a TL-64 Gold at 2.4 GHz and it is nowhere near the performance of a Intel C2D at 2.4 GHz. to sum up this computer, it sucks for how much we paid($949)
HPs comitment to AMD is obsurd. They have decentprocs if all you do is internet or word proccesing. i do much more than that and it cannot handle it. the real problem is that most of their computers with AMD standard do not have Intel siblings. This would need to be a pretty fast puma to keep up with the C2Ds
im not surprised intel was monopolizing, because to compete with AMD they would need to go back to Celeron. Thats my 2 cents(which is increasingly becoming worth 1 cent as the dollor does just a dandy job)
all from the eyes of a twelve year old!]]>Jun 11th 2008 8:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/I also find it very hard to believe that any recent processor with an 8800 and 2GB of ram can barely play Sim City. Your problem is most likely due to software issues such as too much bloatware or having background programs running.
]]>Jun 12th 2008 3:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/well, the C2D is but i mean, we coulda guessed that
i hope this puma platform is a step up from the current Turion
also, i forgot to mention that the Turion and Athlon Lappies cant be placed anywhere where they could burn
Plastic is a definite nono for how hot they can get
and for the turion, at mots 2 hrs of battery while on it
maybe 5 on standyby
really a pathetic waste of elements(Silicon, copper, gold, every other metal they put into a proc)]]>Jun 11th 2008 8:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/
I work at Circuit City, and I've seen every one we've sold come back because someone fiddled with the touchscreen driver.]]>Jun 11th 2008 10:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Notebook/Products_Spec.aspx?ProductID=2835
If that one fails to impress, I'll come back for the HP...


]]>Jun 11th 2008 11:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/Its my first tablet. I thinks its quite good. BUT

1) poor battery life. i need to buy a bigger battery right out of the box. 4 cell packs are not able to cut the mustard.
2) it gets damn hot, very hot.

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Wow, this proably the most clueless thing I've ever seen on this site. If you can't play a game on your PC (and I have no idea why you thought AMD Live has anything to do with performance...) it has nothing to do with the CPU being too slow. That CPU is fast enough to play anything that a 8800 GT can handle and a similarly budgeted Intel CPU wouldn't have made any diffrence in performance. This is either an outright lie or your computer is broken and you are blaming the CPU for some reason.]]>Jun 12th 2008 2:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/hp-pavilion-tx2500z-puma-based-tablet-pc-available-now/Jun 22nd 2008 3:11PM