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How unfortunate for car-lovers it really is.]]>Jun 11th 2008 11:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/Jun 12th 2008 12:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/Jun 11th 2008 11:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/Jun 11th 2008 11:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/Jun 11th 2008 11:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/
...and their dogs.]]>Jun 11th 2008 11:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/Jun 12th 2008 12:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/Jun 12th 2008 2:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/
Great timing! xD]]>Jun 12th 2008 6:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/Aug 18th 2008 8:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/Jun 11th 2008 11:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/
Today I am upset I paid $4.99/gal for gas in San Francisco.]]>Jun 11th 2008 11:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/Jun 11th 2008 11:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/A. E-85 has just the same amount of Co2 emissions as gasoline.
B. Cars on E-85 get 11-13 mpg average.
C. It takes over 1 1/2 gallons if e85 to equal 1 gallon of gas.
D. It takes 22 pounds of corn to make just 1 gallon of ethanol!
E. The US demands 378 million gallons of ethanol per day! Consuming 1.7
million acres of corn a day. This will dramatically increase the price
of corn and the fuel to convert it. IT JUST ISN'T WORTH IT!
]]>Jun 11th 2008 11:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/Jun 11th 2008 11:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/
$7 per gallon is norm, diesel can go for nearly $10 in some parts.

Alternative fuels for automobiles is not the answers. Alternatives to automobiles are.]]>Jun 11th 2008 11:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/
Now, this process relies on fossil fuels, but it means that you get to use the carbon twice, ultimately greatly reducing the amount of emissions. As a bridge technology to tide us over until other cleaner forms become available, and battery technology gets to the point that you can charge quickly and travel long distances reliably, I think it worth pursuing. ]]>Jun 11th 2008 11:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/Jun 12th 2008 12:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/
BTW. Flame away!]]>Jun 12th 2008 3:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/
Your gas is more expensive because it is heavily taxed.

Europeans pay about $1-$4 of tax per gallon, compared to about 14 to 50 cents here in the US. In that sense, we pay the same amount for gasoline as you.

So stop your flaming.]]>Jun 12th 2008 3:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/

There aren't enough refineries. The reason is because new refineries must meet more strict environmental standards. So it's more profitable to rely on the old ones where the regulations do not apply. Idiots can blame this on environmentalists. I blame it on the idiots. If the regulations were applied to old refineries as well as new, we wouldn't have this problem.

Drilling in Alaska could give us an extra million barrels a day for a few years. The US alone consumes well over 20 million a day. So drilling in Alaska is going to help tremendously (/sarcasm).

The problem won't get better till it gets worse. Democrats want to increase fuel taxes directly on companies to subsidize alternative energy infrastructure (and promote the free market in investing in it). They want to offset your loss with income tax relief. So don't bitch and whine when they do it. Or else we're all screwed.]]>Jun 12th 2008 4:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/If I had a plug-in hybrid I could probably go six months without filling up!]]>Jun 12th 2008 8:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/
I agree that there needs to be research in alternatives to gasoline, but to completely abandon research in gas/electric hybrids just when they are starting to "pay off" is ridiculous.]]>Jun 12th 2008 9:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/
The same legislature that allowed (mainly) Enron to a$$-rape California on electricity a few years back is now allowing the same thing to happen to oil, natural gas, and other commodities (food even, I am sure you have all heard of the rice "shortage"). Basically the entire notion of a "shortage" has been entirely fabricated by commodity futures traders to bring the prices up.

http://www.star-telegram.com/ed_wallace/story/651928.html
and
http://www.star-telegram.com/ed_wallace/story/659081.html]]>Jun 12th 2008 10:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/@ Nolan: I agree 100%
@ Artie Lange: You are wrong.

That is all.]]>Jun 12th 2008 10:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.theoildrum.com/uploads/12/eia_opec_reserves.png
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20670001&sid=aBUoYKhu7PWk

Not less oil, more oil. Oil prices the next 10 years will tumble to new lows.]]>Jun 12th 2008 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/
This doesn't solve the problem, it just changes the nature of the problem. Instead of relying on oil, we will be trying to shift our energy production paradigm to significantly higher output using non-coal power generation methods such as nuclear (the best new option).

Now who wants a nuclear power plant in their neighborhood? Don't all sign up at once now!]]>Jun 11th 2008 11:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/Jun 11th 2008 11:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/Jun 11th 2008 11:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/
I can see the next 'global' potential catostrophe happening by all that radioactive waste seeping into our planet. Its no wonder the amount of Cancer caused by strange chemicals and radioactive technology.

Hydrogen exists naturally in our air. That and mandating all new houses in certain regions have solar roofs...]]>Jun 12th 2008 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/
That's the only two things that are needed to keep a plant safe and productive.]]>Jun 12th 2008 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/Jun 12th 2008 2:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/Jun 11th 2008 11:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/Jun 11th 2008 11:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/
And to those American's complaining about $4.05 gas... it's the equivalent of $5.50/gallon in Vancouver, British Columbia, so, no complaining. Europe 's gas prices are not really a fair comparison given that they are not oil producers like Canada is. How Canada can be the largest single country provider of oil to the U.S. and still have far more expensive gas baffles me.]]>Jun 11th 2008 11:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/Jun 11th 2008 11:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/I gotta enjoy this while it lasts.

-Northern Ontario]]>Jun 11th 2008 11:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/Great, you can enjoy your smug ass off when your parents start making you walk everywhere and have to start buying 1/3rd less food. The rapidly escalating price of gas is creating drastic ripple effects in the cost of utilities, services and groceries.

Already some small privately-owned gas stations are being forced to shut down because they can't afford delivery surcharges and the weekly cost of a fill-up of their in-ground tanks. As the price of gas skyrockets the profit margin for small businesses gets even smaller.

While it may plateau within the next few months, if it doesn't you can also expect to see business move toward a workweek of four 10-hour days, and public schools restricting busing to students more than 6 miles out (but still having to pay a fee, as some already do). I can just imagine this generation of American kids wailing injustice when they are required to actually *WALK* farther than thirty feet! Maybe it'll be the ultimate solution to a disgusting generation of morbidly obese American children (when they have massive coronaries on their way to school).

Air travel nationwide is also being hit hard, as many midsized (and even major) airlines are finding that the fuel required to fly a jet a full capacity (passengers, luggage and fuel) costs nearly as much as the astronomical ticket prices. The solution: sell half the seats and raise prices 50 to 75% to make up the difference. Business forecasts from the airlines themselves estimate several dozen municipal airports shutdown entirely within a year ot two, creating a loss of billions of dollars to small business, and affecting parcel transport, product delivery and supply chains.

So, enjoy your smug little ass off, douchebag. You'll be feeling it soon enough.]]>Jun 12th 2008 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/
Your pretty much right, but I think your being pretty harsh on the kid. I mean, douchebag? Who's the real douchbag?]]>Jun 12th 2008 2:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/
And 2029? For reals? That's about 1% different from never.]]>Jun 11th 2008 11:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/Jun 11th 2008 11:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/Jun 11th 2008 11:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/
1 imperial gallon is 4.545 liters.

I'm not sure I really believe your story though.]]>Jun 11th 2008 11:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/
For example: Vancouver is rufflly paying 36.3 cents of tax on every liter of fuel they buy. Catachip paid around $1.46 a liter. That's a significant amount of tax. $1.097 a liter = to about $4.13 a gallon. Oh and I can't forget the 2.4 cent carbon tax in BC either. The canadian government is taxing the hell out of fuel. If you don't believe me just look at their revenues.

-The Government of Canada raises about $5 billion per year from excise taxes on fuel, consisting of about $4 billion from gasoline excise taxes and about $1 billion from diesel and aviation fuel.

-Collectively, the provinces and territories raise about $8 billion per year from excise taxes on gasoline and diesel fuel.

-For 2005, GST revenues from gasoline and diesel fuel, net of input tax credits, are estimated at about $1.6 billion.]]>Jun 12th 2008 7:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/Jun 11th 2008 11:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/
Give me an option to buy, and I will. Don't give me the option to buy, and I keep my money. ]]>Jun 12th 2008 12:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/
Check out the sales numbers of the Prius for the last few years. IT'S SOLD OUT almost everywhere you go. Many dealers mark them up above MSRP. That's a cash-cow that the big 'T' isn't likely to pass on. Like the Honda Asimo and other projects, the previous "lease-only" vehicles were simply to prove to the public that it could be done. They hadn't re-tooled their plants for mass-scale production for electrics and hybrids, which costs Billions of dollars to do by the way. Fast forward almost 10 years later and now we have a new way of thinking, new plants popping up and soon-to-be happy customers.]]>Jun 12th 2008 10:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/What the hell!?

Why do I have to wait til 2010 to have a plugin hybrid!? This isn't NEW technology, Chile has had plugin hybrids for years (I think 20 years). Heck, they've got flex-fuel plugin hybrids (whether flexfuel is great or not, it spreads the resource consumption out).

On top of that, there's already companies that are selling mod kits for the prius NOW that allow you to plug it in.

Toyota, if you can't release this in 2009, you're a bunch of fucking retards! It's a disgrace that you haven't released it already. Get off your asses and make it happen already!
]]>Jun 12th 2008 12:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/
Just like how Toyota doesn't have the capacity and supply of batteries to make enough Priuses right now, they probably don't have enough batteries for the a large number of plug-ins yet. They don't want to impact the demand for their normal hybrids, which is still going strong. That is why the target is 2010, b/c that's when GM is targeting to release their Volt plug-in hybrid. It's just to keep GM from taking the plug-in crown, but it doesn't sound like a very serious bid into making consumer ready plug-ins. Heck, GM sounds a lot more serious about the Volt than Toyota is about their PHEV Prius. Remember, Toyota is out to make profits, not to save the world as they would like people to think.]]>Jun 12th 2008 2:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/toyota-to-introduce-plug-in-hybrid-for-2010-hybrid-versions-of/Jun 12th 2008 12:20AM