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"An anonymous industry source has told Kotaku that reports of a "break-apart" motion controller for the PlayStation 3 that splits into two parts are not entirely accurate."]]>Jun 13th 2008 11:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/"No. 970953 filed on 11/14/1997"
http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6300936.html

which is 3 years after the playstation came out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation

Sony got screwed somehow and Immersion should have never won]]>Jun 14th 2008 12:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumble_Pak

how do you file for a patent on something that already exists and actually get awarded the patent?]]>Jun 14th 2008 9:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/Jun 14th 2008 12:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/Jun 13th 2008 10:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/
COMRADES, ME MUST ABOLISH SONY'S PRODUCTS, THEY ARE A DANGER TO THE MOTHERLAND]]>Jun 13th 2008 11:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/Jun 13th 2008 11:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/
Seriously, I have heard something to the effect of:
"LONG LIVE THE PS3! WE WILL EMERGE VICTORIOUS! ONE DAY EVERY MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD WILL OWN A SONY SYSTEM!"

I am not kidding.]]>Jun 14th 2008 12:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/Jun 14th 2008 6:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/Jun 13th 2008 10:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/
I don't think people release how many different divisions Sony really has and how differently managed each one is. It is easy to lump "Sony" as one whole company, but at least in this case try to think of it as "Sony Computer Entertainment". Also I would cry if they released another controller that is suppose to be the new standard. They finally got things as right as they should be with the DS3, if anything they should strive to make their controllers more like Microsoft's than Nintendo's (I still hook up my Xbox1 controller for some PC games/emulators because my hands don't start to ache after some heavy button mashing some games require).]]>Jun 14th 2008 2:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://img.qj.net/uploads/articles_module/101174/gyropod_concept_art_teaser_qjgenth.jpg]]>Jun 13th 2008 10:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/Jun 13th 2008 10:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/Jun 13th 2008 10:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/And this is coming from someone who actually likes them.]]>Jun 13th 2008 11:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/Jun 14th 2008 1:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/Seriously, do they really think any new device will be greeted warmly by the PlayStation fans they first disappointed with the SIXAXIS, and then bullied into paying $55 for a DualShock 3


ABSOLUTELY, Ryan, time to take off your fanboy glasses and realize that Sony fans LIKE rumble, and the only one BULLIED was Sony for having to work out a deal before getting rumble back.

And yes, as an editor of a tech website, innovation (whether it will work or not) should definitely be discouraged like you just did. no?]]>Jun 13th 2008 10:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/Jun 14th 2008 12:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/
Yes, people bitched at the time the DS3 was released because they probably had already spent money on other controllers, or at the very least had one controller that didn't rumble. I'm sure 1st Gen iPhone owners wish they had 3G, GPS, etc and I've seen plenty of those people complain too.

Finally, should Sony have paid for royalties upfront before releasing a new system like Nintendo and Microsoft did? Yes. Should they have had to pay? No, but the patient system is horribly fudged up and they ended up doing something instead of living us with nothing. Plus developers were able to go back even to the launch title days and add rumble support.

I don't even like the idea of a new PS3 controller, but I don't agree with what you said either.]]>Jun 14th 2008 3:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/
Sony knew they were fighting a losing battle, but also knew if they bend over to every patent troll, being such a leader in invention of technology, they'd lose theirr business. So they fought.

It's worth noting that at the time of the Sony lawsuit, a major investor in Immersion was Microsoft. And Microsoft got a lot of the money Sony had to pay. But Microsoft had said in court many times that Immersion's lawsuit was bullshit (which it was). It's insane to say that a force feedback patent (which is different from rumble) that came out later than rumble, covers rumble.

The writer here clearly did not give the issue a fair discussion. I don't know why he decides to state his conclusions in such an egregiously dishonest manner.

I don't like that I'd have to buy another controller for the PS3, for sure. I know the Eye isn't well supported even though so much potential exists, and the Sixaxis function, though a pretty damn good tech, gets terrible support sometimes. Of course, it's probably even worse on the wii. But this story is typical anti-Sony FUD. Peripherals on the PS3 are pretty damn cheap in many areas, and online support is also cheap. Sony's not ripping gamers off when compared to Nintendo and MS.

I seriously think that if Sony came out with wii-sports tomorrow, and Nintendo hadn't, this editor would pan it as terrible, and a flock of sheep would agree. ]]>Jun 14th 2008 3:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/Jun 14th 2008 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/Jun 15th 2008 11:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/Jun 13th 2008 10:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/
Sheesh.]]>Jun 14th 2008 10:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/Jun 13th 2008 10:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/Jun 14th 2008 3:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/Jun 13th 2008 10:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/Jun 14th 2008 12:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/Jun 13th 2008 10:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/Jun 13th 2008 11:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/
No one is putting a gun to your head you moron!

Pretty biased report if you ask me, I bet i can guess what console the writer supports...]]>Jun 14th 2008 8:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/
I like the idea!

But the real thing could be really different.]]>Jun 13th 2008 11:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/Jun 14th 2008 2:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/
I still don't know why our left and right analogs have to be stuck together in one controller. I would honestly prefer them apart. Two separate controllers, with two triggers left and right, and two buttons either side available to your thumbs (or something like that).]]>Jun 14th 2008 12:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/Jun 15th 2008 8:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/Jun 13th 2008 11:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/you get home from a night out, but you don't want to go to bed, you want to troll!]]>Jun 13th 2008 11:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/
If your going to do motion do everyone a favor and copy the wiimote as closely as humanly/legaly possible. Improve if you can, but don't try and reinvent the whiil.

oh yea, i went there *SNAP*

i should rename myself stuck in the early 00's man

I could call myself Double aught

Yea *SNAP*
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Heck, never had problem with the game not recognize the motion i was doing, no?]]>Jun 13th 2008 11:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/Jun 14th 2008 12:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/Jun 14th 2008 2:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/
The wii has so many controllers it is ridiculous. While every PS3 comes with a controller that can play all the games, the wii needs so many extra ones. The Classic, the Nunchuck, the wheel, the link's crossbow.... the wavebird perhaps. The wiifit just came out, after all.

And Sony catches the flak for a product it hasn't even made, while Nintendo gets a pass for doing a much worse job unifying its controllers, and also charges an arm and a leg for peripherals that don't even recharge. Why?

The wii has a lot of completely stupid peripherals like the wheel, and sony has a legit idea that is getting torn up to shreds. (I like the wii a lot, but you can't deny that they get a lot of money selling extra toys that don't add much).

Oh, that's right, AOL and MS are discussing future tie-ins in the wake of the failed Yahoo merger, MS has recently paid AOL $750,000,000, and AOL owns this site.

It's getting a lot more clear to me what's going on with this article. Heck, PS3 fanboy has only recently become favorable to the PS3 after months of bizarre trollish statements. I used to think FUD accusations were paranoia. I think it's actually a problem now.]]>Jun 14th 2008 3:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/
That all said, I don't see why PS3 owners should be unhappy when a new controller comes out, it's not like you will need to buy it to keep using the system. It's just an unneccessary item that you might LIKE to get, but no one HAS to. New things always come out, no use grumbling about newer tech being better than older tech. (And if it's a terrible controller, then you REALLY dont have to get it @_@ )

That's how it's always going to be. How do you think someone feels when they spec out a new computer, then next month cpu's have twice as many cores or any other of the countless things that are changing in the computer business.]]>Jun 15th 2008 11:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/
still don't see the huge deal about rumble.... my friend came over to play warhawk and he did not even notice there was no rumble. (but then again i have an awesome sub woofer and sound system, you can feel it rumble the floor lol. )
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The Sixaxis and DualShock 3 are the same controller with but one is with rumble. If Sony makes a split DualShock 3, as long as they make games that use it to its full potential, I'll be fine with it.]]>Jun 14th 2008 12:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/Jun 14th 2008 3:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/finally someone with some common sense and plus if u really hate it u dont have to buy it so what difference does it make]]>Jun 14th 2008 4:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/Jun 14th 2008 12:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/13/sonys-wiimote-competitor-to-come-as-break-apart-dualshock-3/_> This site is either filled with Apple fanboys (which is cool with me, Apple for life!) or XBOX fanboys (which need to just keel over and die...your system is shit)]]>Jun 14th 2008 12:59AM