http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/ Engadget Comments for Apple settles visual voicemail lawsuit, licenses Klausner's patents http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 17th 2008 2:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 17th 2008 3:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 18th 2008 2:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 17th 2008 7:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 17th 2008 6:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 17th 2008 2:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 17th 2008 3:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/
Appole eats RIM for breakfast.]]>Jun 17th 2008 3:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/
At lease Microsoft would have bought them to make it their own.]]>Jun 17th 2008 3:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 17th 2008 3:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Who are you really eh ? People who argue with you get banned !]]>Jun 17th 2008 7:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 17th 2008 9:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/
That's not the reason. You're getting ragged on cuz nobody likes you.

That said, I've never heard of the company, but good for them. Apple's so-called innovations are, more often than not, ideas stolen from obscure companies.]]>Jun 18th 2008 11:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/
Nice try Apple-Gadget. ]]>Jun 17th 2008 3:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 17th 2008 3:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 17th 2008 3:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 17th 2008 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/
How is your comment relevant to even this misplaced comment, fanman? Or is your bitching on autopilot?]]>Jun 17th 2008 3:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 17th 2008 6:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/
Sorry, still nobody likes you, but everybody dislikes clak fiercely. So, + 1 for you...this time.]]>Jun 18th 2008 11:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 17th 2008 3:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 17th 2008 3:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 17th 2008 3:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 17th 2008 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 17th 2008 3:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/
It makes sense because then anyone can invent something, not just a company in that business. Therefore, literally billions more people have an incentive to improve technology in a particular area, not just the handful of companies that actually sell something in that space.

If your idea to bar all patent holding companies or individuals from owning patents just because they don't practice it, the pace of technology would slow way down.]]>Jun 17th 2008 3:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/
"If your idea to bar all patent holding companies or individuals from owning patents just because they don't practice it, the pace of technology would slow way down."

The visual voicemail patent has caused the pace of technology to slow down. Why would I want to implement anything _remotely_ similar to visual voicemail?

At least patents have to be very specific. The more general they are, the more ideas they stifle.]]>Jun 17th 2008 5:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 17th 2008 6:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/
Your response has nothing to do with my post (not even remotely). I wasn't talking about Visual Voicemail (although your premise that the existence of visual voicemail slowed down the pace of technology development makes no sense). I was talking about patents in general.]]>Jun 17th 2008 7:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 17th 2008 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 17th 2008 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.flickr.com/photos/jwlphotography/2317637750/

Are you the photographer? or you are stealing someone else's photo?]]>Jun 17th 2008 11:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/
Before anyone starts saying well apple and AT&T did all the hard work without fully reading the decision(if you have please post about it) I remind you that a lot of the big companies and especially apple and MS have a history of this type of thing(The biggest one that comes to mind is MSJET[a database spreadsheet linking program]) and it is not fully out of the realm of possibility that they took from the little guy pitching their ideas to other companies and having them rejected. Of course if this is a Marshall TX lawsuit it immediately casts doubt on the validity of the claim(though once again any smart lawyer would in fact prosecute their if they could even if they are right since the object is to win their lawsuit).

this is just a preliminary posts I will be researching this case to see what the findings were and whatever else I can look up. I hope this does mean that the visual voicemail feature could appear on Sprint and Verizon and Tmobile though it is the only feature the Iphone has that makes me want the thing in the first place.]]>Jun 17th 2008 3:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/
In a day-in-age when we have networked music services which show you, visually, all the songs available for listening to, then direct streaming of the song once you select it, simple patents like this should be outlawed.]]>Jun 17th 2008 4:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/
I am still trying to read through the patents. So I am still reserving my final opinion until I do. that said if it does fall under your scenario than I would have to say that any patents held by Apple and AT&T on this matter would also be invalid. It isn't a matter of a patent being simple the first patent issued in the US is how to create pearl and pot ash it is more of a matter if the patent is common knowledge to people in the field at the timeit is filed which it can take many years for a patent to be approved. This very well could be or it may not be the idea may be prominent but the process by which it is carried out may have been out of grasp until such a patent came about. Though I do respect your opion and overall general point.]]>Jun 17th 2008 4:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 17th 2008 5:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 17th 2008 6:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 17th 2008 9:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 17th 2008 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/
Boom.]]>Jun 17th 2008 4:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 17th 2008 4:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_voicemail]]>Jun 17th 2008 4:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/
I thought you couldn't patent obvious things.

Guess not?]]>Jun 17th 2008 4:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 17th 2008 9:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/
I guarantee Apple's lawyer's wouldn't have settled so quietly if they hadn't already looked at all the prior art out there and determined that they couldn't invalidate the patent.]]>Jun 18th 2008 4:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Bit like dashboard (cough*cough* Konfabulator)
Touch screen UI (cough*cough* Perceptive Pixel)
Keyboard, Mouse, PC UI (cough*cough* Xerox)
HDD based Mp3 players (cough*cough* Thompson)]]>Jun 17th 2008 7:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 17th 2008 8:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/Jun 18th 2008 3:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/apple-settles-visual-voicemail-lawsuit-licenses-klausners-pate/
But based on the list you made, you have to be impressed with Apple's marketing. All of those companies you listed failed to get customers using the same technology. (I guess not Konfabulator, but still). ]]>Jun 18th 2008 6:48PM