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Some of us LIKE new stuff, and value technology - not just because we have no sense of direction.]]>Jun 17th 2008 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/Jun 17th 2008 5:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/Yeah, having a hard time figuring out why my Nuvi 350 needs replacing...
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Garmin and TomTom (and no doubt others) have that problem solved: they all include non user-repleaceable batteries in nearly all their models (last I checked only Garmin have removable batteries in their higher-end models).

Meaning after 400-500 charge cycles the battery will no longer hold suitable charge, and you're out buying another one... or doing the replacement organ battery surgery yourself if you are technically-inclined.

Of course if you use it plugged in nearly all the time then you're good.]]>Jun 18th 2008 1:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/Jun 17th 2008 12:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/Jun 17th 2008 1:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/Jun 17th 2008 3:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/Jun 17th 2008 12:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/Jun 17th 2008 12:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/Jun 17th 2008 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/Jun 17th 2008 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/Jun 17th 2008 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/
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What he's really trying to say in a subtle way is, "why the f@XT is this thing $1000 when you can buy the same functionality for 5 times less?"

As for supply/demand- prices don't always go down when demand goes up. In fact, you should take a look at the supply/demand concept your self- prices generally *go up* when the demand goes up.

Production efficiencies & overall output are what usually bring prices down.

Closeouts & overstocks bring prices down but that generally happens after an inflated initial interest estimate puts a company in a losing situation.

Example: Ferrari Enzo- there are 400 made. There are more than 400 people that want them, price goes up. There's X amount of gold in the world X+1 wants gold, price goes up.]]>Jun 17th 2008 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/Jun 17th 2008 1:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/
Hey let me point something out pally - I can buy a device that does the same thing for 80 percent less. And all the add-ons and doo-dads this thing brings are just fluff. The core use of a PNP is the N, Navigation...and any time you can buy a pnp AND a cheap used car for the price of an entire 1K PNP, it's overpriced. Unless it carries you to your destination, fans you enroute, and plays a trumpet fanfare.]]>Jun 17th 2008 1:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/
And honestly, is voice recognition that big of a deal? I *never* use it on my Acura RL unless I *have* to (i.e. to dial my phone). I can't even imagine how road noise would affect one of these.

Alternatively (with TomTom) you can create "itineraries" on your computer and never have to speak a single word to the GPS.

Regarding addresses or POI's not in the PND - go to Google Maps and "send to GPS". Works for both Garmin and TomTom...]]>Jun 17th 2008 1:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/
ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS for a Nuvi-whatever-random-number (just look at their current product range and try to find out any sense on the whole thing).

But now: 1000$ for a crap interface that seems taken out of an exaggerated cartoon painted by color-blind people. Lagging map data that, as far as I know, does not include any of the new trends (statistical data on average speeds, for example). Little chance to properly customize a trip (avoid particular roads, for example). Argh!!!

Just give TomTom a try. The most basic TomTom One is years ahead of this thing in what it really should do: NAVIGATE.

I wonder when Garmin will step back to the days when they had a proper product range, and state-of-the-art devices, and really exciting novelties.

Why the crap does one really need to speak to the damn thing?]]>Jun 17th 2008 1:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/Jun 17th 2008 2:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/Seriously? You should pickup a Nuvi and give it a try. I own a TomTom 730 and a Nuvi 260. ($450 vs $215/gift)

The Nuvi clearly has the edge, here. The mapping is identical, but the Nuvi has a simple, intuitive interface.

It sounds to me like you're upset that Garmin's are so easy to use. Perhaps you'd be better off with a punch card system that spits out UTM coordinates?]]>Jun 17th 2008 4:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/
I had to rent a car in Virginia and drive to Philadelphia (a flight from Norfolk to Philly was $600, WTF). But I had this with me, and it worked great. Hit no traffic and even took the scenic route up he coast and stopped at a bunch of interesting points it had loaded on the thing.

I was really impressed with it. It would be better with a built in XM/Sirius receiver in it. the FM based traffic is lacking.]]>Jun 17th 2008 2:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/
I think I like my 920 enough to think it was worth the extra cash (I almost bought a Garmin 350 instead but spent the extra cash for this.) Beautiful screen, good functionality, but I still have trouble justifying the double expense. Really, they both do the same things with the same abilities. I don't use the extra frills like mp3s, the bluetooth doesn't like verizon, and the text-to-speech butchers as many roads as it gets right.

Then you move to this... yeah. When the price falls to $300 I might consider it. But my 920 will still do the job just as well. And I'll hopefully have a new car with a built-in unit (which yes, is not as functional, and yes, is slower, and yes, is way overpriced, but I'll make those sacrifices to get something built into the dash by the factory.)]]>Jun 17th 2008 2:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/]]>Jun 17th 2008 2:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/
Voice activation.

It's very cool... and if you've got a $20,000 or higher car, a $1,000 GPS with GOOD speech recognition really isn't asking too much.

These aren't being marketing to people who drive a $4,000 vehicle. (Such as myself)

Besides, Garmin's MSRP is always much higher than they allow their retailers to sell the units for. For example, the Nuvi 760 is $387 on Amazon.com, but Garmin suggests the a retail price of $642.84. Garmin doesn't sell GPS units directly to the public.]]>Jun 17th 2008 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/The basic model ran about $1000... I think everyone has just gotten spoiled. Why aren't we complaining about not having $3000 muscle cars anymore?]]>Jun 18th 2008 8:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/nuvi-880-is-up-for-pre-order-if-youve-got-1000-youre-dying-t/Then you have to buy a carrying case and plug in charger because it does not come with one.

Stick with the 600 series. Better value and it works at a fraction of the price.]]>Jul 11th 2008 3:43PM