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^that's still true right?]]>Jun 19th 2008 10:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 19th 2008 10:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 19th 2008 10:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 19th 2008 10:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 19th 2008 11:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 19th 2008 11:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 20th 2008 12:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 20th 2008 5:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 20th 2008 5:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/
Don't you think thats narrowminded? For all we know life on other planets could have evolved to live on anything, not specifically water carbon etc... and you can't say its impossible because we have no way of knowing for sure. Think a little bit wider then what was taught in school my friend.]]>Jun 20th 2008 5:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Life is also possible to exist from other materials such as silicon.

Humans.
We know very little and we are very bold.]]>Jun 20th 2008 7:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 20th 2008 11:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/
Just because there isn't evidence that silicon life forms can't exist doesn't mean they can. That is like saying that when a block isn't observed by anyone, it ceases to exist. There's no way to prove it, and yet only assholes who think they know everything say that to contradict people who are trying to make a point.

Carbon is unique in that it can form long chains of hydrocarbons, thus providing a strong backbone for other elements to attach onto. You haven't researched very much into the idea of complex silicon lifeforms if you don't realize that there are many problems for the existence of silicon based life forms.

To quote from http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/#commentform , "Conceivably, some strange life-forms might be built from silicone-like substances were it not for an apparently fatal flaw in silicon's biological credentials. This is its powerful affinity for oxygen. When carbon is oxidized during the respiratory process of a terrestrial organism (see respiration), it becomes the gas carbon dioxide – a waste material that is easy for a creature to remove from its body. The oxidation of silicon, however, yields a solid because, immediately upon formation, silicon dioxide organizes itself into a lattice in which each silicon atom is surrounded by four oxygens. Disposing of such a substance would pose a major respiratory challenge."

Also, from "Silicon dioxide precipitates in aqueous systems, and cannot be transported among living beings by common biological means.

As such, another solvent would be necessary to sustain silicon-based life forms; it would be difficult (if not impossible) to find another common compound with the unusual properties of water which make it an ideal solvent for carbon-based life."

Also, there has been no evidence in found in extra-terrestrial space rocks (comets, asteroids) that would indicate any possibility of silicon life.

Somebody has been watching too much science fiction.]]>Jun 20th 2008 5:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/
But anyway if people didn't have different views on things we wouldn't be where we are in technology now would we :)]]>Jun 21st 2008 1:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Great ... another planet with Global Warming.]]>Jun 19th 2008 10:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/
NONE LIKE IT HOT!]]>Jun 19th 2008 10:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/
best comment ever]]>Jun 20th 2008 1:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 20th 2008 3:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Great ... another planet with Global Warming.


Hmm... the joke just doesn't have the same ring to it.

If only they found the ice closer to the equator during summer on Mars, then it would've been fine since the Red Planet can reach 80 degrees F. ;)]]>Jun 20th 2008 4:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/
^that's still true right?]]>Jun 19th 2008 10:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 19th 2008 10:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 19th 2008 10:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 19th 2008 11:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 19th 2008 10:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 19th 2008 11:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 19th 2008 11:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/
I couldnt tell you why they just didn't land near that crater.]]>Jun 19th 2008 11:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 19th 2008 11:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 19th 2008 11:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/
Well while typing this, did some research on NASA website:
"Dice-size crumbs of bright material have vanished from inside a trench where they were photographed by NASA's Phoenix Mars Lander four days ago, convincing scientists that the material was frozen water that vaporized after digging exposed it. "

=) yay!!]]>Jun 20th 2008 8:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 19th 2008 10:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 19th 2008 11:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 20th 2008 5:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 20th 2008 6:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 19th 2008 10:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 19th 2008 11:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 19th 2008 11:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 19th 2008 11:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 19th 2008 11:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 20th 2008 9:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A]]>Jun 19th 2008 11:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/
"... uh... God put microbes there... for... uh... humans to discover. Yes."]]>Jun 19th 2008 11:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 19th 2008 11:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 19th 2008 11:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Yes, because your view on life and why we're here is so much more correct than Changaz.

Give me a break.]]>Jun 19th 2008 11:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 19th 2008 11:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 19th 2008 11:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/Jun 19th 2008 11:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/i dunno... perhaps it means on the 7th day when God said he had a rest, what he really meant was that he put life on earth's next door neighbour.

btw, in case you havent noticed, its called trolling.


]]>Jun 19th 2008 11:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/mars-phoenix-lander-discovers-ice-on-mars/
I'm not trying to argue the existence of God here, I'm just making a point on whether or not life on other planets would make any difference to Christian beliefs.

If you ask an average Christian whether he thought there was life on other planets, he'd probably say "No."

If you asked him whether the bible explicitly says that the only life God ever created was located solely on planet Earth. He'd probably say, "I don't know" or "No".

If you asked a Christian theologian whether he thought there might be life on other planets. He'd probably say. "Maybe or Probably". Because the Bible hints at the fact that we aren't the beginning and end of God's creation.

Therefore finding life on other planets would not affect Christian beliefs since the Bible actually hints at the possibility of life elsewhere, whether its bacteria or intelligent life. Though it would probably surprise most of us.

And for the record, a theologian and a Pastor are not always one in the same.

I personally think it'd be cool if we found life somewhere else and I would not be surprised.

Here's a secret:
Christianity did not always subscribe to the notion that the earth was only roughly 6000 years old, you can take that as Pastors' knee jerk reaction to Charles Darwin. Before Darwin, it was commonly accepted that the Earth was possibly millions or billions of years old, and that the 7 day creation story was actually a re-creation. I don't wanna get into details, but yes that's a little history fact.

I also don't want to get into an argument about whether I'm right or you're wrong about the existence or, non existence of God, or the validity of the Bible, but don't think atheists have a monopoly on intelligent thought regarding the origins of life.


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