http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/ Engadget Comments for Nanosolar solar film rolls off the presses at 100 feet-per-minute http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/Jun 19th 2008 8:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/Wonder how practical and expensive it would be to make hood, trunk, and roof covers out of this stuff, to help charge hybrid and electric cars.

Or, for houses, awnings and blinds.]]>Jun 19th 2008 8:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/
Why isn't EVERYTHING being covered with these things. I don't know what these things would look like easthetically but I'd take a little ugly for free energy. ]]>Jun 19th 2008 8:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/



WHY THE F ISNT MY AVATAR SHOWING UP? i hope the caps help]]>Jun 19th 2008 8:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/Jun 19th 2008 9:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/
Which on another note you should be thankful for because this process doesn't use high grade silicone (or any at all maybe?) so that means you'll still be able to buy your Mac's since there will be resources to make them.

The economics of R&D has a funny way of working out in the long run]]>Jun 19th 2008 9:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/Jun 19th 2008 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/Jun 19th 2008 9:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/Jun 19th 2008 9:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://api.ning.com/files/Sdt59mj1L-DolE841PTuNydqB-rg1Ofi6YpQ-JHLzp4MNwOSyEN9hZGpqIWTLtBmCVFe1YTA1t7x9eQA6cRlQAEcOODEO5FU/IMG_0461.JPG
]]>Jun 19th 2008 10:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/Ken: I'm not talking about entirely powering a car from these. I'm talking about letting a hybrid or electric car use these to boost its battery charge. All of that time spent sitting in the sun, or even while driving, could help extend the MPG of a hybrid, and/or extend the range of both hybrids and electrics.

Exclusively power them? No. Augment their other power sources? absolutely.

rock: I would start with an already electric car... Zenn, a modified hybrid that allows for external charging (plugin and/or these solar cells), etc.
]]>Jun 19th 2008 10:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/Jun 19th 2008 10:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/Think.
Rush Hour. Parked on the free way. ]]>Jun 19th 2008 1:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/Jun 19th 2008 8:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/Jun 23rd 2008 11:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/Jun 19th 2008 8:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/Jun 19th 2008 9:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/
I thought; what with the current religious war and our inability to show compassion, understanding, and sympathy to opposing viewpoints; our over-usage of natural resources, man-made resources, and our general waste of all things we use; and the continuing success of Microsoft despite their development, marketing, and output of sh*tty products; humanity was already in the poop shoot.

...wait, you didn't mean that philosophically?...you just meant that the human race is still alive?...Oh.

Then I guess not.]]>Jun 19th 2008 9:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/
LOL! That was really really funny!]]>Jun 19th 2008 10:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/
Damn, Ignatius, I like that "probably"! :-)

Even if you exclude the red giant phase the sun has at least 4 billion years to go. Mankind: < 10000 years (my estimate, based on observation of our idiotic and self-destructive behavior. A natural calamity or two may increase the odds)]]>Jun 19th 2008 10:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/Jun 19th 2008 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/
Dude, they've found frozen people that are older than that. Try guessing in the millions. You did go to school, right?]]>Jun 19th 2008 10:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/
I am aware of why I don't get invited to parties...but the difference between me and everyone else is that I'm okay with it :)]]>Jun 19th 2008 10:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/No way. Your telling me that if they wanted a second one of those they would need that much more? Seems that the most expensive part is the "ink" which apparently isn't that expensive if they hope to produce it for 99cents/watt.
Even if it does cost that much buy 100 of them. 100 of them @ 100fpm and 99cents/watt would bring in... 100 billion dollars! not all profit but still not bad for 100 printers.]]>Jun 19th 2008 9:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/Jun 19th 2008 6:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/
That 1.65 million dollar price is probably included the engineering cost to have it designed as well as the one-off machining costs, both of which are very expensive compared to a mass produced product. You would never want to build 100 of them because that would create too much supply and force you to lower price losing profit, also since the panels are becoming cheaper so quickly, to have 100 printers means that you would be unable to compete in 6 months, that’s why everyone builds just one plant every few years, so that they are always able to compete.]]>Jun 19th 2008 9:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/Jun 19th 2008 9:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/Jun 19th 2008 9:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/Jun 19th 2008 9:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/
BUT

The efficiency of solar panels is not an issue, what matters is the cost of the panel per watt of electricity generated over a period of a few years.

So yes, even though you need more rooftop or desert land surface area, your overall cost per watt will be less.
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waste of time imho.

in a few years time we 'll get photovoltaic cells in paint.]]>Jun 19th 2008 9:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/Jun 19th 2008 10:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/Jun 19th 2008 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/Jun 19th 2008 10:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/
Based on these estimates: ROI: 4 years. Post-ROI savings: $150/mo.
(Not including installation, maintenance, or equipment for power storage, regulation, or inversion.)

Lifetime savings (based on BP Solar warranty of 25 years/ 80% output): $37800, over 5 times the initial cost.

Though these estimates are almost worthless without estimates on what the other stuff costs...]]>Jun 19th 2008 11:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/Jun 19th 2008 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/party on!]]>Jun 19th 2008 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/Jun 19th 2008 11:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/
First off, you're consuming an average of 58 kWh a day. That's pretty high. You should first look into getting a more efficient heating & cooling system, preferably a ground-source heat pump, more insulation in your home, and CFL light bulbs. Those changes alone would most likely halve your extremely high rate of consumption. Also old hotwater heaters and fridges consume massive amounts of energy compared to new ones.

That aside, even to cover your current consumption, you'd need a smaller array than you think. San Antonio has an average daily solar insulation of 5.88. So for every 1kw of panels you have, you'd generate 5.88 kWh on average daily. To cover every last cent of your current consumption, you'd need a 9.8 kw array, not 13 kw. With inverters, panels, and install, an array that size comes to around 75k and take around 48 panels. An array that size would save you 58kw daily (just a hair under $5 at your stated rate), that works out to be 1824.27 annually in savings, barring any state or utility rebates/green tags.

Depending on your utility, CPS Energy in Texas offers $10,000 in rebates for installed residential PV panels. You'd also be eligible for a 2k personal tax credit from the feds. Depending on if you sell green-tags for the energy you produce, you'd make around $500 annually of those too.

To be the most cost effective, you need to focus on figuring out where you're wasting all that current energy. Putting panels on an energy-hog home like that is not solving much. If you cut your consumption by half, then installed a 5kw array that costs 35k installed, plus added the above rebates, then you'd be much better off. First year installed cost would be closer to 22,000 and payback would be about 10 years.]]>Jun 19th 2008 12:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/Jun 19th 2008 12:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/
I can almost guarantee you that is the efficiency of their best CELL in a lab setting. Commercial scale, module efficiencies are much lower. They have some nice manufacturing, but their product has a long way to go.]]>Jun 19th 2008 1:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/
I hope this thing takes off, quickly. I where we are going to see solar cell in the next decade.]]>Jun 19th 2008 1:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/Jun 19th 2008 3:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/Jun 19th 2008 5:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/19/nanosolar-solar-film-rolls-off-the-presses-at-100-feet-per-minut/
+ Student Driver, too. ->I agree that along with Geothermal, Ass Power, esp. for the really vast ones is an under-researched energy field.
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