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bear in mind, they're just preliminary specs (subject to change).]]>Jun 27th 2008 6:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Those specs at PDAdb.net list GPS and aGPS as present on the TP but not the X1. Unless something has changed, the X1 will have aGPS.
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the phone number still can be moved from phone to phone, but the carrier has to do it for you.]]>Jun 27th 2008 9:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/
I'm still leaning towards the X1. 3 phones I'm leaning towards:
Xperia X1
HTC Touch Pro
HTC Dream?

I just hope and pray that there will be a way to install android on the HTC Touch Pro or the Xperia X1.


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Touch Pro or X1?]]>Jun 27th 2008 3:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 11:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 28th 2008 1:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/
Pixel density that reaches the physical limit of the retina is certainly a good goal, but we can't even get 200+ DPI monitors for god sakes! The most important thing Apple and Microsoft could do is to FINALLY make resolution-independent vector user interfaces. The average Joe who thinks his "text is to small" is the one buying all the 1280x800 19" monitors! For god sakes, we haven't progressed for years! I remember an old 15" laptop I had at least 5-6 years ago that had a 1600x1200 screen. Today, you can barely even FIND 15" displays that have 1600/1920x1200 screens...

We need to at least shrink the existing 2560x1600 resolution panels down to 17-20" instead of 30", and increase the 30" panels to 4K digital cinema resolution! (~3840x2400)

Where is the progress???



]]>Jun 28th 2008 7:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/other than that I agree with Jacubious that X1 on th pixel count. and im curious too on the touchflo]]>Jun 27th 2008 4:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 4:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 5:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 5:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 5:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/most phones sold by the phone providers are branded and not in a good way so just buying it directly is the only real option anyway]]>Jun 27th 2008 5:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 5:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 5:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/
it is crappy]]>Jun 27th 2008 8:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/
]]>Jun 27th 2008 10:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 5:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Until I see their screens live :P]]>Jun 27th 2008 5:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 5:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 2:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/
I think that by December, TouchFLO 3D will most likely be running on the X1 (by the guys at xda-developers or ppcgeeks) since the Diamond, X1, and Touch Pro all run the MSM7201A (MSM7501A for CDMA) chipsets.

The X1 might cost a bit more with those 200 extra pixels, but the one thing I'm still waiting to hear about is when the first Tegra phone is going to hit. If Tegra phones won't hit by Xmas, I'm going to get a Touch Pro.]]>Jun 27th 2008 5:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/

Another important question is if WM7 will be supported by Diamond and Xperia. (But apparently yes)]]>Jun 27th 2008 6:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/
Unless both of these phones are launched with prices near $250, iPhone 2.0 will sell and sell and sell. Don't get me wrong though, if the HTC price-point is low enough I'd jump - that's one sweet looking phone for those of us who want some physical buttons to press. ]]>Jun 27th 2008 11:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/
It may be worth it to you, but no doubt those two phones WILL be a lot more. Going by Nokia N95 8GB prices, you're going to be looking at $600+ up front in the US. Prices like those aren't going to cannibalize iPhone sales one bit.

The story may be different in other parts of the world.]]>Jun 27th 2008 2:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/
Nah, Retail unsubsidized price might be around $500.00, but of course the carriers will also subsidize these phones. My guess is under contract you'd be able to pick one up for between $200-$300. I got an at&t Tilt for $250 back when it was released last year, I know others who get prices as low as $199 under contract.

As far as these phones eating/not eating into iPhone sales, I think its the other way around. The repeated iPhone price drops, a reflection of its diminishing perceived value, are an attempt to capture more of the BB, WinMo market share. I don't think BB, WinMo, or symbian have much to worry about. ]]>Jun 27th 2008 3:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 5:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 5:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 5:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 5:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 8:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 5:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=200&p=360&g=364&h=9959

PhoneScoop above have a series of photos with the Touch Diamond and the Touch Pro side by side, and from my perspective, top-down they look nearly identical. Side-on the Pro is obviously quite thick, but this is in comparison with the ultra-thin Diamond.

I am worried about the graphics drivers for an 800x480 screen, and for incompatibility with existing and forthcoming 3rd party software. Plus you know that xda-devs will be all over the Touch Pro the moment it is released, meaning upgrades in the months to come. Not sure you can say the same of the X1 even if it is made by HTC. At present I'm leaning to the Touch Pro, but my mind changes every other day!]]>Jun 27th 2008 5:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 5:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 5:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 5:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 5:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 5:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 8:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 5:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 5:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 8:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 6:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/
As for choosing between X1 and TP, that is hard choice. Differences are small. I think either choice is good. I probably goes with TP just because I like being able to get help from XDA.]]>Jun 27th 2008 6:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/
Other than call quality though I love HTC handsets and would recommend them to anyone for their additional functionality.]]>Jun 27th 2008 6:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/htc-touch-pro-gets-handled-keyboard-better-than-x1s/Jun 27th 2008 7:38AM