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My advice to you would have been to bow down whilst your dignity was still intact. However, it seems we have far surpassed that episode...

My advice to you now is - stop being such a moron.

Lots of love,

Me.]]>Jul 1st 2008 5:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/Jul 1st 2008 10:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/Jul 1st 2008 10:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/
Actually, I'll ask the Engadget writers this too, why do you hate competition so much?]]>Jul 2nd 2008 1:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/Jul 1st 2008 5:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/Jul 1st 2008 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/
Viva La Toshiba!]]>Jul 1st 2008 5:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/
If you need to buy a new player to play these "DVDs on steroids" that still won't have the resolution and detail of a true 1080p Blu-Ray disc, what is the point?]]>Jul 1st 2008 5:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/


Let it die already toshiba and give me a cheap bluray player dang it]]>Jul 1st 2008 5:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/
If you need to buy a new player to play these "DVDs on steroids" that still won't have the resolution and detail of a true 1080p Blu-Ray disc, what is the point?]]>Jul 1st 2008 5:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/
To benefit from this new format, you will either have to:

- Buy a new player that will play this format, or
- Buy the SAME movie on a disc encoded in this format

Either way, you're double dipping and that totally defeats the purpose. Why not just save yourself the trouble and get a Blu-Ray player?]]>Jul 1st 2008 5:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/
Yet everyone seems, for some reason, opposed to the concept of them improving upscaling technology and, or, possibly offering a download service.

Actually, if Tosh sold a DVD player with burner and allowed you to download an burn movies via the internet, I think that would be something I might consider using.

But at any rate, this is all just stupid conjecture and hearsay without so much as a credible grain of actual evidence. But hey, this is the internet, never let it be said that anyone wrote a comment that they had put some thought into rather than just flying off into a rage.

And, yes, I do it too! ]]>Jul 1st 2008 6:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/Jul 1st 2008 9:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/
Let It Die

Signed,
The Customers]]>Jul 1st 2008 5:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/Jul 1st 2008 5:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/Jul 1st 2008 5:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/
The problem is that (some) people actually want to watch movies in High Definition. DVD simply cannot deliver that. The problem is that we have people who don't understand that. Upscaling technology will never be just as good.

If you look at still digital cameras, it's all about the megapixels. More megapixels = high resolution images = better printed pictures. Here's a simple test, take a thumbnail of a photo, and resize it to the same resolution as the original. You will see that the resized image isn't as good as the original. Simply put, you can't make something out of nothing, and that is what Toshiba is trying to do. Moving pictures have some advantages over still images, but in the end what upscaling is doing is trying to make something out of nothing. Their product will never be as good as the real thing.

They are hoping for the possiblity that downloadable content will displace BD. There are other issues with that. First is storage size. A product like the XBox 360 is severely limited because some people don't have harddrives, and many only have 20GB harddrives. Even a single layer HD-DVD uses 15GB. Second is high speed internet, isn't really that high speed. Even if you got an amazing 10Mbps download (which you probably don't), it would take almost 3.4 hours. Are people willing to wait? Third, ISPs are not equipped for that amount of traffic. Without net neutrality, the ISPs could downgrade your movie provider in favor of their own product. Downloadable movies is a great idea, but there are many hurdle before it's really ready for consumers.
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8-Track Download DL
MiniDisc Download DL
DCC Download DL
LaserDisc Download DL
Compact Cassette Download DL
Vinyl Download DL
NTSC Download DL

That'll show 'em! Screw new technology!]]>Jul 1st 2008 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/Jul 1st 2008 5:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/Jul 1st 2008 5:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/Jul 1st 2008 5:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/Jul 1st 2008 6:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/Jul 1st 2008 10:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/
It's a shame, but tosh seems committed to go down in flames.]]>Jul 1st 2008 11:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/Jul 1st 2008 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/
Yes, the technology is superior, but DVD does look and sound mighty fine right now on my HD set. Why waste the extra money?

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**As long as I'm not caught.]]>Jul 2nd 2008 8:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/Jul 1st 2008 6:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/Jul 1st 2008 6:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/Jul 1st 2008 10:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/Purveyors of VCRs and stolen US submarine technology to the Soviets in the 80's Who the *&% knows whats next
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Still no amount of pixel dust can make 480 look better than 1080. But you can eek out some decent upscaling with the right gear.

I would think Sony could make that "most amazing powerful Cell" processor do some fancy upscaling magic. It does pretty decent in the Ps3 as it stands... but I've seen better. ]]>Jul 1st 2008 6:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/Jul 1st 2008 6:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/Jul 1st 2008 6:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/Jul 1st 2008 6:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/Jul 1st 2008 6:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/
For most consumers the main beneffit is to better watch the DVDs they ALREADY own.

Even if I have a Blue Ray player I won't be trowing away my current collection of DVD's and repurchasing everyone in BR format and not every current DVD will be made in BR format.

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I'm not going to disagree that people want HD. But my point is purely that a lot of us have DVDs already, and some have very large collections. If Toshiba can increase the quality of upscaling, then that is something worth having. And if that player can talk to the internet and download content, then even better.

And, yes, image size counts, but that's not to say that you can't get great results from a camera with fewer megapixels, especially if everything else about the camera (especially the lens) is high quality.

For me, the fact remains that however good Blu-ray might be, there is a lot of DVD out there that people still want to watch. I might have replaced my VHS collection with DVD, but I can promise you I won't be rushing to get Blu-ray to replace my DVDs.

As for downloads, I have a line that allows me to download at 2MB/s, or 20mbps, so big files don't take all that long. And sure, waiting is a pain, but with progressive downloads, I can handle it. If I had my way, every piece of media would be on a server in my house, and viewable everywhere, screw this stupid plastic discs.]]>Jul 1st 2008 7:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/dvd-download-dl-logo-sparks-wonder-over-toshibas-super-resoluti/
"Even if you got an amazing 10Mbps download (which you probably don't), it would take almost 3.4 hours. Are people willing to wait?"

It typically takes me much longer than 3.4 hours to obtain media in a physical format.
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