http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/ Engadget Comments for OpenMoko Neo FreeRunner available for order July 4, shipping July 7 http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/Jul 2nd 2008 9:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/Jul 2nd 2008 9:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/]]>Jul 2nd 2008 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/Jul 2nd 2008 10:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/Jul 2nd 2008 11:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/]]>Jul 2nd 2008 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/- still using leet
- calling someone a "hater"
- writing so incoherently that it takes minutes to decode your post, only to realise you said absolutely nothing except a yo momma joke

If you wish to dispute this ban, please indicate by sticking a fork in the power socket nearest your computer.]]>Jul 2nd 2008 12:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/- still using leet in sentences
- calling someone a "hater"
- writing so incoherently that it takes minutes to decode your post, only to realise you said absolutely nothing except a yo momma joke

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(hopefully not a repost, something went wrong)]]>Jul 2nd 2008 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/
oh my. what a twisted sense of humor.]]>Jul 2nd 2008 2:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/
That said, it's going to be a tough sell for them...with the 3G Jesus phone imminent and Android on the horizon. Specs are nice, but the data rate will make them look bad in this market. Of course, geeks are their only market since this announcement is essentially a tree falling in a forest everywhere else...and as a geek, I'm happy to see them ship, but not happy with a step backward in speed vs. my current Treo.

Of course, open is nice.]]>Jul 2nd 2008 9:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/Jul 2nd 2008 11:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/Jul 2nd 2008 5:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/
No guarantee that it sucks less, but given how it's an option and it's open... if it's performance is up to snuff, I'd give it a chance.]]>Jul 2nd 2008 9:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/
Oh, wait.]]>Jul 2nd 2008 9:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/Jul 2nd 2008 10:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/
"GPRS (2.5G not EDGE)"

That, combined with the stupid lanyard loop, make this one big pile of fail. ]]>Jul 2nd 2008 11:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/Jul 2nd 2008 11:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/Jul 2nd 2008 9:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/Jul 2nd 2008 9:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/
This phone doesn't seem appealing to me, it's not attractive and the specs are Mehhh sauce. ]]>Jul 2nd 2008 12:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/
And Edge only? Who's the target customer? I'm betting those who don't know about 3G are the same ones that don't know what open means.]]>Jul 2nd 2008 9:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/
I would already have one if I had the money right now. So far all I see from Android is delays and nowhere to be found hardware announcements. This at least is something that works now and is available now and almost affordable. Considering you can change the hardware and software freely and they provide you with all the specs and CAD data you need to remodel the thing I think it's a pretty cool project that finally made the next step.]]>Jul 2nd 2008 9:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/
Please remember now and for all times never to use Android and open in one sentence ever again.

Android is NOT open. It runs on linux but their whole stack is a proprietary blob.

If I dont tell the truth please show me the source.]]>Jul 2nd 2008 10:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://code.google.com/p/android/downloads/list

I like the idea of the OpenMoko project very much, and followed it closely for awhile, but at present it's $400 and two data speeds out of date.]]>Jul 2nd 2008 3:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/would be nice if you would read the links you are pasting.
the source that is there are those they HAVE to publish since the linux kernel is GPL
there is NO SOURCE for the android operating system/framework atop of it]]>Jul 3rd 2008 2:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/Jul 2nd 2008 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/Jul 2nd 2008 2:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/Jul 2nd 2008 9:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.mobilelinuxinfo.com/images/neo-freerunner-giz.jpg

Better now?]]>Jul 2nd 2008 9:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/Jul 2nd 2008 9:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/
BTW. would people please stop saying "epic" ... none of the shit you use it for is actually epic. Just because videogame items are named like that in a virtual fantasy world doesn't make it an appropriate term for mediocre bullshit. Taking the closed telephone hardware and software market and pushing into that with an open customizable solution = THAT is epic. Because people in ten years will talk about that ... not about a stupid purple shinplate.]]>Jul 2nd 2008 9:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/
As if anyone with any sense at all will buy this FAILphone before the iPhone 3G becomes available. They think that releasing this a few days before the iPhone 3G is going to sway the tide. Get real.
]]>Jul 2nd 2008 10:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/
Either you forgot to take a dump today,or you just always have a stick of self-righteousness up your ass.]]>Jul 2nd 2008 11:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/Jul 2nd 2008 12:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/
Dude,it's the internet.Anything goes.Like anyone is really gonna care what ya think?

It would be easier to make Hilary Clinton actually attractive than to get people to listen to your rants and or comments and actually have them abide by it.]]>Jul 2nd 2008 12:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/Open trumps proprietary? Is that why Asteroids on my Ubuntu box is only marginally better than the one a couple friends and I put together with no previous knowledge of graphics?]]>Jul 2nd 2008 12:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/
@T-Bone: If open means that I can swap my battery for several Nokia models for a few bucks instead of mailing it in to replace. If it means that I can choose any carrier I want. If it means that I can write applications for the device that I don't have to illegally crack to run them yes it trumps proprietary. And I'll give you the point that open software doesn't have to be brilliant code all the time ... but it means that at least there is a reasonable chance for improvement. Locked down proprietary technology rises and falls with the developing company and their ideas. Open technology grows on ALL ideas. And if more improvement means longer initial adaption phase like we see it with Linux ... good things need some time.]]>Jul 2nd 2008 2:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/Stop filling this space with your shit.]]>Jul 2nd 2008 3:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/Jul 2nd 2008 4:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/
a lot of things shouldnt happen,but that's called life now isnt it?

And your replies amuse me.They make me giggle.Which is why I start things with people like you,who will personally take what anyone says to heart.]]>Jul 2nd 2008 9:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/
so you're saying no one's allowed to tell you to Ƒuck off?]]>Jul 2nd 2008 9:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/Jul 2nd 2008 9:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/
You can.But I'll just tell you to do the same.Or ignore it completely and actually do something productive]]>Jul 3rd 2008 12:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/Jul 5th 2008 4:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/Jul 2nd 2008 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/
]]>Jul 2nd 2008 10:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/but, i need to be able to take the sim out of my bbry and plug it into this...so...maybe some other time. my work is so technically inept that i have to carry a bbry and 2 pagers already, i can't have another phone on my belt, i'd look like batman
"quick robin, the shark repellant!"]]>Jul 2nd 2008 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/
I see GPRS, and some nebulous reference to 2.6G, though I've never understood that to mean EDGE/EGPRS.

Can someone confirm 2.6G = EDGE. A cursory 'googling' of "GPRS 2.6G" only really brings up this article. Seems absurd to think a device wouldn't have EDGE in this day and age, but you never know...]]>Jul 2nd 2008 10:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/
but as i have used the neo1973 for over a year now, i think i can say that gprs is just enough]]>Jul 2nd 2008 11:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/openmoko-neo-freerunner-available-for-order-july-4-shipping-jul/2.5G = GPRS
2.75G = EDGE
2.6G = WTF
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