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Zaaap.
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Nothing to see here, move along.. Just normal flamebait posting by Ryan. =)]]>Jul 7th 2008 12:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/Jul 7th 2008 7:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/Jul 8th 2008 11:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/Jul 7th 2008 1:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/Jul 7th 2008 1:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/Jul 7th 2008 2:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/Jul 7th 2008 8:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/Jul 7th 2008 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/
Although I do have a defunct lawnmower and washing machine in the garage... Perhaps it is time to marry the two?

All I need now is a suit and tie.]]>Jul 7th 2008 12:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/
...And a marriage license.]]>Jul 7th 2008 7:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/Jul 7th 2008 1:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/Jul 7th 2008 2:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/Jul 7th 2008 1:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/In Europe we got pretty much everything on 240v (and some professional tools on 380v) for the AC.

Looks like this car will be best used on this side of the pond ;)) Keep them going to Europe !!]]>Jul 7th 2008 2:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/Jul 7th 2008 2:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/Jul 7th 2008 3:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/Jul 7th 2008 3:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/Jul 7th 2008 4:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/
US: 120V, 208V between phases (that's x sqrt(3))
Europe: 230V, 400V between phases

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This is great and all ... and it is early days ... but have we just replaced a fuel guzzling V8 engine with a coal burning (at least here in Australia it is) power station ?? What's the net gain in all of this?]]>Jul 7th 2008 1:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/Jul 7th 2008 1:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/Jul 7th 2008 1:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/Jul 7th 2008 1:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/Jul 7th 2008 1:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/Jul 7th 2008 2:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/Natural gas 37.7%
Coal 20%
Large Hydro 17%
Nuclear 14.5%
Geothermal 5%
Biomass 2.1%
Small Hydro 1.9%
Wind 1.5%
Solar 0.2%
So all in all you are getting 60% by burning stuff instead of 100% and it is much more affordable than gasoline.]]>Jul 7th 2008 2:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/Arent we going to slowly shift to wind and solar powered energy.
So why do idiots like you still keep bringing this argument up.
We havent shifted to green energy yet.
So let atleast the cars be green.
We can then eliminate coal power.
Also there already exists hydro electricity and nuclear power plants. So everything is not coal.
I dont what do with people like this.
I think either they want to have bath in the morning with clean water or else these people just rub shit all over themselves.]]>Jul 7th 2008 11:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/Jul 7th 2008 1:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/Jul 7th 2008 1:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/Jul 7th 2008 3:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/Jul 7th 2008 1:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/It will take about 8 hours to charge from 220V, 30 Amps.
The Tesla home charger is 220V, 70 Amps and takes less than 4 hours. The math for calculating the charging time to first order is not difficult, try using some.]]>Jul 7th 2008 1:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/
If it really is pulling 80 amps of 220, it would use the same power during its 8 hour charge as my air conditioner would running non-stop for 20 hours straight.

I still think the big joke is that using this much power if you live in a part of the country that is powered by a coal or oil burning power plant, would pollute more than if the car ran on gas. However, if your power comes from a nuclear plant, you're helping the environment.

In response to the post above about the power plant not polluting more when someone uses more power, your nuts. Do you think rolling blackouts are done for fun? Or do you realize that when everyone has their AC running (which in an average house uses less power than this car) power plants have to increase their output.

Do some research before you rant.]]>Jul 7th 2008 2:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/
you better have a PV solar system on your roof if you own one of these things. and even mid-sized PV systems only do about 40KWh on the best summer days... ouch.]]>Jul 7th 2008 2:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/Jul 7th 2008 2:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/
that would be assuming you drive 220 miles a day...

now lets say you drove a honda fit...32 mpg (from experience) 220/32=6.875
6.875*4.09 (local gas price)=28.12 which is much more than 16.50 and the roadster is obviously much sportier.

Also, where are you getting your price/kwh? for me it would only cost 5 dollars to charge the roadster which is a hell of a lot cheaper than 28.12]]>Jul 7th 2008 3:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/
What I said was a COUPLE of Teslas were not going to have that much of an impact. Of couse I understand that that consumption causes blackouts. And where in my comment did you see a rant??? I believe yours to be more of a rant than mine...]]>Jul 7th 2008 3:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/Jul 7th 2008 4:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/300% of baseline, $0.358/kWh) Although I'm sure better rates can be had with E-7 billing (time of day-based usage)

I know "math is hard" for a lot of people, but it's been publicly stated that the Tesla has a ~55kWh pack.]]>Jul 7th 2008 9:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/07/tesla-roadster-takes-30-hours-to-charge-from-a-standard-wall-socket/
i have 2 priuses and i guess it costs about the same to run 220 miles. i didnt do that math, it was late.

as others have pointed out the top PG&E tiers around here range from 0.30 to 0.38 $/kwh depending on the time of year. electricity is very expensive in N. california. i guess i have this very outdated bias of thinking that electricity is essentially free, and so the tesla numbers came as kind of a shock (ha ha) to me.]]>Jul 7th 2008 11:00AM