Sprint's Treo 800w manual goes online, all 436 spellbinding pages of it

Very rarely does a Palm handset go fully under the radar all the way through to the official announcement (if ever?), and now that we have a user's manual, we can pretty much declare the impending Treo 800w fully, completely, and utterly scooped. This is definitely the real deal, too, coming straight off Sprint's site -- not to say anyone would go to the trouble of faking their own -- and unveils no real surprises that we can see. The usual Windows Mobile 6.1 interface with Palm customizations, conservative styling (we're being generous there), and typical array of Sprint add-ons like Sprint TV are going to make this a safe, easy choice for the well-starched suit in your life, and that's about it. Not to say we have a problem with well-starched suits; Engadget corporate policy requires that we wear them at all times, actually. [Warning: PDF link]

[Thanks, Josh]

[Google Posted Jul 8th 2008 1:06PM]

it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out how to use a smart phone... then again many devices are under documented.

[From My Cube Posted Jul 8th 2008 1:14PM]

wow, suits really?


business casual all the way

[(Unverified) Posted Jul 8th 2008 1:18PM]

Good products don't require 436 page manuals.

[dantheman9 Posted Jul 8th 2008 1:57PM]

No, but idiots do

[(Unverified) Posted Jul 8th 2008 1:59PM]

if they're idiots, they're probably not reading a 436 page manual

[(Unverified) Posted Jul 8th 2008 1:21PM]

Manual and products

[Lowest Ranked Posted Jul 8th 2008 3:04PM]

Yes, you seemed to have successfully summarize what the entire article is about, in the vaguest sense.

[Google Posted Jul 8th 2008 1:27PM]

They are never gonna be able to compete against the Jesus phone like this.... You cant compare reading a 436 page manual to the 3G Iphone online guided tour. When are they gonna wake up?

[OneLove Posted Jul 8th 2008 2:08PM]

epic fail!

[qrius Posted Jul 8th 2008 1:31PM]

my question is, who is funding palm with all this money to still even be alive? I thought they'd be dead by now...

[(Unverified) Posted Jul 8th 2008 1:38PM]

My guess would be Palm.

[(Unverified) Posted Jul 8th 2008 1:47PM]

I believe that they're still making a profit. Obviously it's not enough profit to keep up with the R&D spend of the big boys, but enough to keep afloat.

[Joshs Red Pants Posted Jul 8th 2008 1:34PM]

drop the 5-way pad in favor of a squircle.

[(Unverified) Posted Jul 8th 2008 2:00PM]

yes Milton, we know you could see the squircles from your old desk and they were merry

[JerkyChew Posted Jul 8th 2008 2:00PM]

I should have one in hand by next week at the latest, I'll be sure to send pics to the Engadget crew.

[(Unverified) Posted Jul 8th 2008 2:04PM]

You are talking about the phone, right?

[RogueGenius Posted Jul 8th 2008 2:39PM]

Oh Captain Obvious, you slay me! (+ 1)

[(Unverified) Posted Jul 11th 2008 2:15AM]

I can get u full pics tomorrow if u want them!

[Mr Mario Posted Jul 8th 2008 2:27PM]

I'm sure the manual is in, at least, 4 different languages.

[(Unverified) Posted Jul 8th 2008 2:55PM]

Looks like a great phone, actually. Just one thing... where are the specifications? The manual doesn't say how much ram and storage is available. I had a 700wx and the amount of ram made it very responsive and usable. On the reverse side, I bought a Mogul after the 700wx (newer is better, right?) and because of the limited amount of ram, I have to constantly close applications and depending on what I'm doing it can slow to a crawl.

[(Unverified) Posted Jul 8th 2008 4:04PM]

@Kris

128mb/256mb RAM/ROM

After the OS boots, you'll have 100mb RAM and about 174mb ROM for programs.

That's about ~25mb of more RAM and ROM than the comparable HTC Touch, even though they have the same amount physically.

Re: length of the manual....

Err..if you just compare this one to the 6800, Touch, iPhone etc. you'll see that's it's the same info except the 800w has...well more detail. I'm not sure why that's a bad thing.

[(Unverified) Posted Jul 8th 2008 3:19PM]

You can dress up a pig all you want, but a pig is still a pig.

[(Unverified) Posted Jul 8th 2008 3:48PM]

you're not doing the mascara right

[(Unverified) Posted Jul 8th 2008 3:55PM]

mmm...mmm...mmm Pork!

[blomster Posted Jul 8th 2008 4:10PM]

Here's the important stuff:

Size: 4.41 in. x 2.28 in. x 0.73 in. (112mm x 58mm x 18.5mm)
Weight: 4.94 ounces (140 grams)

[(Unverified) Posted Jul 8th 2008 4:20PM]

Well I'm getting one; it's all that I want it a phone as a good replacement to my failed Mogul.

[ginginha Posted Jul 8th 2008 5:46PM]

I can assure you that if your suit was actually well-starched you would have a problem with it. Please reserve the starch for shirts only.

[(Unverified) Posted Jul 8th 2008 9:28PM]

Looks like Sprint took the PDF down. Though it sounds like it's going to be launched online tomorrow (7/9) and in store on 7/14. This looks like a great replacement for my shit-tastic Mogul.

[(Unverified) Posted Jul 8th 2008 10:33PM]

the original link is down...

can anyone re-up the pdf and post a link please?

[(Unverified) Posted Jul 9th 2008 2:16AM]

Sprint pulled the source file, but there's a "mega upload" mirror of the PDF at the bottom of this page

http://www.wmexperts.com/sprint_treo_800w_user_guide.html

downloaded fine for me after the 60 second waiting period.

[(Unverified) Posted Jul 9th 2008 5:00PM]

My thoughts are like "wilsongonewild"...I am getting one! BTW, you're gonna get more pages when you reduce the size from 8.5 x 11...but who wants to carry around a school notebook binder? have fun guys

[(Unverified) Posted Jul 11th 2008 2:15AM]

We just got 3 in our store today...they aren't supposed to be launching until Sunday the 13th...They're pretty nice....but plastic like the Centro. I am getting on as a test phone tomorrow...i'll send photos if y'all are interested.