http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/ Engadget Comments for BlackBerry Thunder not ready, disappointing, and kills puppies http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/
You mean you're dismissing your own "Gawd, it's Greeeeeaaaat!" article just like that!?
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Someone is going to loose major credibility on this one, but they will likely just claim "well I'm just a blog" as an excuse. The best thing to do is to demand that either of these sites name some names or just discount them both altogether.]]>Jul 9th 2008 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/Jul 9th 2008 11:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/
As for crediability, Crackberry has already fired their salvo in that field. They point out that they've got 3 sources that they put together for their story (as opposed to the assumed 1 source in BGR's). Plus they asked one of the sources to comment on the BGR story and he said that much of it just doesn't add up. He said the haptics don't work in the way described and that the "touch and drag" method of selection just doesn't make any sense.

I imagine you'll see some back and forth between the two for awhile. Both sides claiming their sources are the more trust worthy. In the end its all just rumor and speculation on something that hasn't been released yet so you're always going to get different versions based on who has seen and used what.]]>Jul 9th 2008 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/
With all that said, I'm almost sure this phone will be delayed till Xmas or beyond. This is a chronic problem in the cell industry, and it would be REAL hard to avoid delays with a phone as innovative as this.]]>Jul 9th 2008 12:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/Jul 9th 2008 12:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/
I agree with everything you said, but I still have to ask, whats the point of this phone if there is no content behind it. I have owned the Treo and Blackberry, and while they were both good phones, getting pics and video (especially video) onto the phone always seems to involve pulling teeth. iTunes removes all this, making it easy to download video content that can utilize the larger screen. Without a content resource like iTunes that streamlines the content component I don't see how this phone can compete against the iPhone.

Also, it would all be so simple if AT&T didn't get slammed by consumer reports, and they had better international data roaming packages. Its $60 for 50Mb -- with all the fuss over Rodgers, you would think Apple would take issues with that even stingier data bundle.

Cell phone life always seems to be about compromise...

My 2 Cents]]>Jul 10th 2008 12:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/Jul 9th 2008 10:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/Jul 9th 2008 10:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/Jul 9th 2008 10:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/Why not go for a Bold instead? Although I am still going to hold out hope they pull this Thunder through before I pick up a Bold.]]>Jul 9th 2008 11:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/
They need a martinet for a leader who refuses to compromise. Someone who yells and calls people Bozos and demands more than their best every single day at work.

Then they'll know how to build this thing to be an iPhone competitor. Until then, it's a has-been.

At least it's not an OpenMoko Linux phone where you have to type in terminal, "gpsmumblemuble 555-1212" to dial. :-P]]>Jul 9th 2008 11:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/Jul 9th 2008 12:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/]]>Jul 9th 2008 2:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/Jul 9th 2008 11:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://crackberry.com/nerd-fight-thunder-rolls-or-thunder-sucks

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Thank you, thank you! I'll be here all week!]]>Jul 9th 2008 11:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/Jul 9th 2008 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/Jul 9th 2008 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/
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Checkmate]]>Jul 9th 2008 11:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/Jul 9th 2008 11:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/Jul 9th 2008 11:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/Jul 9th 2008 11:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/
Does the Crackberry report get "unpublished" because they like BGR more or vice versa?

Its two different sites with two different reports. Just because one is newer doesn't automatically make the other wrong.]]>Jul 9th 2008 12:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/
It looks like an iPhone, is it 3G ? I would class this an another "me 2" phone. Jubei is always right on this.

I love Apple products, but get this .... Blackberry and Apple just blatantly copied the look of the Dell Axim 50v. I mean for goodness sake, that design is 4 years old.

Can't either Apple or RIM come up with something original ?

The whole idea if icon-driven is a bit 2004 isn't it ?

Mind you Apple did invent 3G I think. And scratchproof glass (a bit like the stuff they put on watch that my Pop bought me in 1971). Clever of them to think of that.

I love Apple. All other products suck really bad. Buy Apple I say.



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Wow...thats amazazing!]]>Jul 9th 2008 11:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/Jul 9th 2008 2:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/Jul 9th 2008 4:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/Jul 9th 2008 11:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/heheh, love the AD/DC photoshopped in.

Gawd, now to get that song out of my head.

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Are their products actually leading to brain rot?]]>Jul 9th 2008 1:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/
I really think that "doppelgänger" is the wrong word here. After all, if some one else were acting in the same way as Apple, then that would be patent infringement. I love Apples but I don't really think that Apple would sit still on that.

Apple did copy the Dell Axim 50v's look (Glass Front, Silver sides)

Quite right though that Apple did invent
1. scratch resistant glass
2. 3G
3. Binary code
4. Harmonics
5. Apples
6. Icons
7. The phone
8. UNIX

I love apples, and I hate every other product out there.

##My girlfriend said that she would never lay me again if I did not shove an apple up my ass... I said "Core-Blimey" strewth, hell no, Sheila...##]]>Jul 9th 2008 2:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/Jul 9th 2008 2:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/
With the Blackberry, apparently the screen also pushed in to some degree, like a giant one-key keyboard or something, coupled with the vibration. I doubt it was going to be useful at all and just a gimmick.

Nokia has some great R&D labs, so maybe they will be able to compete with Apple in next-generation Haptic touchscreen technology. I'm sure they both, among others, are scrambling to make something truly practical for next-gen phones.


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Apple has been making a phone (not phones....a phone) for a year]]>Jul 9th 2008 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/Jul 9th 2008 12:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/07/09/are-you-really-serious/

No "naming of names" but if it is just a question of actual employees vs. commenters on a blog then you're going to have to give the weight to the BGR report.]]>Jul 9th 2008 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/Jul 9th 2008 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/
http://crackberry.com/nerd-fight-thunder-rolls-or-thunder-sucks

"** UPDATE: Well, Boy Genius apparently has taken some serious offense to this post. None intended at all. Myself, CrackBerry.com and the CB community love the BG! Without him we'd have wayyy less to blog about, talk about and dream about. But he's got his inside source, we've got our inside sources, and those sources have conflicting information..."

They go on at the link to insist that their sources aren't just commenters, but also actual RIM employees. They also give kind of a point by point rebutal standing ground on somethings, apologizing for others. It all ends with hugs.]]>Jul 9th 2008 2:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/Jul 9th 2008 1:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbnySBqioB0


don't hate - I had to do it!


]]>Jul 9th 2008 1:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/I hope they're not dropping the ball on this like they seem to be doing a lot lately. ]]>Jul 9th 2008 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/Jul 9th 2008 2:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/
I mean RIM started, what 7 years ago.. and look at them, what do they have only 60% of the business smartphone market in North America, 70% at most. How can they expect to compete against the iphone, the iphone has taken the Dell Axim design so far it hurts.

I love Apples and hate any company that even thinks that it can compete with Steve Jobs, He is a God. I am not worthy to be called an Apple Fanboy.]]>Jul 9th 2008 2:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/Jul 9th 2008 9:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/
OMG OMG There's the Chinese 3G Iphone!!! WHAT ARE YOU WEARING?!]]>Jul 9th 2008 3:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/blackberry-thunder-not-ready-disappointing-and-kills-puppies/Jul 9th 2008 6:32PM