http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 1:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 1:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 1:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/
WTF they were the first to use 32gb flash. That comment screams apple fanboy]]>Jul 9th 2008 1:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 1:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/
Your comment screams "retard."]]>Jul 9th 2008 1:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/
The Flash memory and controller you find in a media player / USB stick / SD card are much simpler, slower, and less durable.]]>Jul 9th 2008 4:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 5:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 7:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 1:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 1:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 1:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/
I highly doubt it, but it'll be that cheap someday.]]>Jul 9th 2008 2:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 2:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 3:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 8:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 15th 2008 11:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 1:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Normally everything that ships with an Apple costs more, not less.]]>Jul 9th 2008 1:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 6:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/
Also, the MBA can only use 5mm high SSDs - 9.5mm is too tall.]]>Jul 10th 2008 9:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 1:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/
thanks.]]>Jul 9th 2008 1:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Just a ballpoint figure will do.]]>Jul 9th 2008 1:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 1:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 1:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 4:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 8:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 1:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/
Can I have your autograph?!]]>Jul 9th 2008 1:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/MLC 120 MB/sec read, 30 write http://www.mydigitalssd.com/
HDD1 3 Gb/sec (for some reason I think it's probably less) http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16822148288
HDD2 150 MB/sec http://www1.officedepot.com/ddSKU.do?level=SK&id=709904&cm_mmc=Traffic%20Leader-_-Overture%20SMX-_-Pro-Tec-_-Maxtor_200GB_Ultra_Series_SATA_Internal_Har]]>Jul 9th 2008 2:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 2:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/
old motherboards cant do anything near that fast]]>Jul 9th 2008 2:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 2:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 2:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 2:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/
Thats an incredibly ignorant statement. That's like saying electric vehicles aren't as fast as gasoline combustion engine vehicles. It COMPLETELY DEPENDS on the specific implementation of either technology.
There are 3 different sizes of HDDs, 5 different rotational velocities, 3-5 different interfaces, not too mention hundreds of different disk controllers.
Although MLC isn't traditionally as fast as SLC when speaking in terms of raw performance, it really depends on the whole architecture of the SSD, especially the disk controller.]]>Jul 9th 2008 4:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 2:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 2:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 2:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 7:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/
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I'd love to add more, but Engadget Allows Only 3 URLs.

http://stason.org/TULARC/pc/pc_hardware_faq/8_13_My_drive_lists_a_MTBF_of_300_000_hours_Will_it_really_last_34_years.html
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/hdd/learningresource/whitepapers/LearningResource_OverallReliability.html
http://www.rpi.edu/~sofkam/fileserverdisks.html

(Please correct my errors, It's been a while since I learned about this)]]>Jul 9th 2008 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/
Well, since we don't have an actual price - just a 'it's gotta be cheaper than'... so we can't really compare price per unit storage which is the major difference between these two products.

And unless MLC doesn't have cell-fatigue (or at least has far less of it), then the 20x numbers sound like they're pulled out of someone's a.... hat.... Then again, let's assume they're right - we're talking 80 to 100 year lifespans. Why does that just seem insanely improbable unless we're talking all that time in a box on the shelf?

But ok - as I noted before - how many of us hold on to their laptops for 5 years? (And while we're at it - where did the 4 to 5 year lifespan for HDs in laptops come from? I have several laptops and four of them are 8 years old or more and their HDs are fine... Collectable laptops, ok?)

Then there's the speed. The 3Gbps figure isn't realistic - that's SATA2 max bandwidth, no one gets that - but 160MBps is more believable. Mind you, the real issue is access speed - and at least in theory, SSD should win there even if it's not that much better at burst.

Powerwise, we'll I'll wait until someone does the OBVIOUS test and sticks a current meter on these things and just measures real world power consumption rather than trying all the indirect tests.

Finally, if you REALLY have a need to dropkick your laptop - then it's only fair that you'll have to spend more on your laptop. Stupidity shouldn't be free.

For the rest of us, a tiny amount of self-control and forward thinking and we can save a ton on storage devices.

Cheers.]]>Jul 9th 2008 2:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 3:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 5:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 6:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 6:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/]]>Jul 9th 2008 7:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/09/samsungs-low-power-128gb-ssds-go-mass-production-on-the-cheap/Jul 9th 2008 8:26AM