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If it actually is FF, and not just called that (Hassy calls theirs fullframe, but they're still cropped), then I believe they're the first.

And it's not excess. Some people need that many megapixels. Us consumers do not.]]>Jul 14th 2008 9:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/Jul 14th 2008 9:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/
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This sensor is designed by Phase One/Dalsa, so its an exclusive design that won't be in other digital backs. Which isn't that bad, unless you're invested in the closed H3D system which won't be able to attach this back.

The P65 oddly enough will be able to attach to Hasselblad's H1/H2 system as well as Mamiya, Hy6, Contax, V-systems, and the new Mamiya 645 AFDIII (co-designed with Phase One).

Clearly this announcement was made to out-do the Hasselblad 50MP announcement last week. The full-frame will make a big difference being that it'll help on wider lenses (the 28mm MF lenses are around $4k).
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http://www.clarkvision.com/imagedetail/eye-resolution.html

"...you can pretty much look right into the pores of someones face..." - I can do that with 5 megapixels and an optical zoom ;)))
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Then you don't have the short turnaround time, instant feedback and flexibility some clients demand. Digital is not necessarily teaching an old dog new tricks - its almost a different art form that results in similar end products compared to film.]]>Jul 14th 2008 10:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/
Unfortunately, like any technology, these super high resolution digital cameras are just going to raise the bar for turnaround times. With film, everyone knew there was going to be a wait of a day or two. Now everyone expects to see a layout right after the photo shoot.]]>Jul 14th 2008 2:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/
Fail.]]>Jul 14th 2008 9:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/Jul 14th 2008 2:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/Jul 14th 2008 10:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/Jul 14th 2008 10:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/Jul 14th 2008 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/Jul 14th 2008 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/Jul 14th 2008 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/Jul 14th 2008 3:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/Jul 14th 2008 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/Jul 14th 2008 11:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/Jul 14th 2008 11:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/Jul 14th 2008 11:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/Jul 14th 2008 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/Jul 14th 2008 11:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/Jul 14th 2008 5:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/
Even for a giant canvas. 8 megapixel is still enough for a photo quality picture, of course is not recommended for a audience near to a few inches, but of course you always can interpolate and use several other tricks.

Currently a 20megapixel camera is inexpensive, everything over it is just toss your money.

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When you say "you could do it better with film" sure, you could shoot large format, process it, and then scan it, manually. Or you could tether this to your tower in your studio and it would come in instantly. I'm pretty sure this is something that photographers will rent instead of owning.

Do they say what kind of bodies these will fit? I obviously can't afford one, but love the idea of throwing this on to my 500c/m.

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By the way, all numbers are made up, because studies have shown that real numbers are no better than made up ones. All 29 studies showed this.]]>Jul 14th 2008 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/60mp is very useful. I purchased the P45 the first month it was out, and I will eventually get the P65. Truth is, Advertising agencies are always asking for larger files, greater resolution. Photographers are always looking to get an edge and be able to offer better files. This is not a amateur back. All the people that say buy an film SLR and get a scanner are very disillusioned about how the commercial photography world works. This back is not for them. Film is great, if the budgets and time constraints allowed I would still shoot 4x5. However my clients would rather spend the $750 rental fee instead of $2000 on film and get the finished products days ahead of time. Even though this camera is $40,000, it is well worth it if you have the clients.]]>Jul 25th 2008 9:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/Not because of the megapels, but on account of the near-full 6*4.5 coverage. All of a sudden those longer lenses become very, very useful.
Selective focus and the reduced magnification of optical flaws are two of those things you can't fake, no matter how you try.
The added resolution is cake. (Delicious and moist, to be sure, but only one factor of the three-course meal.)

I agree that film is still a better place to start for most shooters (seeing that you could get into MF film—complete with darkroom equipment or a scanner—for less than a grand) but digital is a different medium. Like moving from B&W to color negs, or negs to slides, you'll get something different out of this format.]]>Jul 27th 2008 1:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/phase-one-p65-60-megapixel-digital-back-doesnt-know-the-meanin/I am going to try it out on my Hasselblad V camera system, ASAP. Needless to say, this extreme resolution puts great demands on lenses, lens shades (referrably bellows matte boxes), and also on the photographic situation, flash vs. available light (really sturdy tripods and heads, mirror-up capability), movement, etc, etc.

But if you use say anyone of these excellent Carl Zeiss T* multi-coated lenses: the SWC/M Biogon 4,5/38mm superwide angle, the 3,5/100mm Planar, the 4/120 Makro-Planar or the superb 4/180 Sonnar (at near their best apertures, which in some cases are close to full!), I wouldn´t be surprised if you would get absolutely staggering results, as far as contrast and resolution are concerned. So much for German lens technology and know-how, which has been among the créme-de-la-créme for a century.

PhaseOne architecture also allows you to use their backs on avariety of systems, including the smaller LF cameras, for example Linhof, Cambo or Arca-Swiss 6x9, for corrective table-top or architechture photography.
Hasselblad makes a big deal out of the distorsion correction of their 39Mpxl 28mm wide angle, however, this possibility has been available in software Photoshop CS (and others) for years. With the new super-resolution backs, I think we will see an increasing number of software that corrects the inevitable optical errors of certain lenses, especially big retrofucus wideangle lenses. These are still much, much better, though, than for example the SLR zooms from Nikon or Canon, where it is almost impossible to get a straight horizon, no matter what you pay for the lens. Lens correction in a dedicated sopftware becomes a must, for certain tyes of images.

I consider this a great stride forward. It will be fun to try it on a Hasselblad SWC/M camera, which will get you an completely undistorted image, equivalent of a 24mm lens in 35mm.

Bengt F, photographer, Stockholm, Sweden]]>Jul 28th 2008 7:08AM