http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/ Engadget Comments for CE-Oh no he didn't! Part LVII: Howard Stringer says the Wii is not 'a competitor' http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2010 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/niche? no way!]]>Jul 15th 2008 9:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/Jul 15th 2008 10:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/
If anything than the 360 is apart of a niche also, the PS3 and 360 are just about even in price point at this current time.

@maff

And the Wii started off aiming for the niche market of family orientated game play, but then turned that niche into one of the largests markets within the gaming industry and the big N deserves kudos for that!]]>Jul 15th 2008 10:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/Jul 15th 2008 10:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/
I love people like this Eric M guy. The Wii is killing the PS3 on pretty much all levels but he is such a fanboy that he has to try and find anyway to make it look like its not what people say it is. He even will go so far as to compare its price (for some unknown reason) to the 360 (which was not even brought up in this article) and try to find any loop hole so he can to justify is fanboyism.

The PS3 is a NICHE machine 10x over before the Wii is. The PS3 is STILL more then the 360 and STILL more then a Wii (a lot more). Not to mention the games @ $60 to $70 a pop.

You probably spent $600+ on your PS3 because you stood in line to buy one the day they came out so of coarse you are going to try to defend your precious NICHE MACHINE.]]>Jul 15th 2008 10:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/
One thing, how am I a fanboy? The PS3 and the 360 are comparable in price. 360 wasn't mentioned, but I used it as a comparison. And I couldn't care less, I have a PS3 and a 360 and yes I do think the PS3 is better hardware than the 360, but the 360 has the games.

And the Wii is killing EVERYTHING! You just seem as if you're a Sony bashing more than I look like a fanboy. And if you're telling me that you predicted that the Wii was going to be such a hit, you're a freaking lier. No one could have predicted that the Wii would be such a hit. The Wii started off aiming for a niche in the gaming market that wasn't there. The Wii was Nintendo's last stand, and it became a success and broadened the gaming market.

So how about you actually READ my post and tell me how I'm a fanboy? And no I didn't wait for my PS3, it was a gift and I actually purchased my 360. ]]>Jul 15th 2008 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/
One thing, how am I a fanboy? The PS3 and the 360 are comparable in price. 360 wasn't mentioned, but I used it as a comparison. And I couldn't care less, I have a PS3 and a 360 and yes I do think the PS3 is better hardware than the 360, but the 360 has the games.

And the Wii is killing EVERYTHING! You just seem as if you're a Sony bashing more than I look like a fanboy. And if you're telling me that you predicted that the Wii was going to be such a hit, you're a freaking lier. No one could have predicted that the Wii would be such a hit. The Wii started off aiming for a niche in the gaming market that wasn't there. The Wii was Nintendo's last stand, and it became a success and broadened the gaming market.

So how about you actually READ my post and tell me how I'm a fanboy? And no I didn't wait for my PS3, it was a gift and I actually purchased my 360. ]]>Jul 15th 2008 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/I hate it when people cry "fanboi" as much anyone else. But you have your facts wrong. Nitendo didn't really target a different group, rather they simply didn't focus on the core gamer like the other console makers. Core gamers are something like 8% of the US population. Casual gamers are something like 30-40% or more. So saying the the Wii is niche is completely wrong. They used this strategy for both the DS and Wii and it makes sense. Let Sony and MS fight for 8% of the pie, we'll go for the other 22+% that they simply forgot about. I'm a core gamer myself, but just because something is not catered to me doesn't make it a bad product.
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Never trust a guy in a suit to run a video game company.]]>Jul 15th 2008 10:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/
From that picture, I'd swear there was a touch of the Jerry Springer about him...]]>Jul 15th 2008 11:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/
I just don't agree with the:
Wii=kids
PS3/xbox=adults]]>Jul 15th 2008 11:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/
Is he Stringer, or is he Springer? I'm so confused!]]>Jul 15th 2008 9:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/
Every franchise Nintendo secures is a game, or several, not appearing on your platforms.

Every piece of media coverage it and its high profile titles like Wii Fit gets are eyeballs lured away from your platforms.

It's a competitor, and you are an idiot if you don't recognise that, regardless of teraflops, gigabytes, fill rates and the disc format it uses.]]>Jul 15th 2008 9:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/Jul 15th 2008 10:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/Jul 15th 2008 10:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/Jul 15th 2008 10:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/I'm 20 years old and have had N64, PS2, GC, Wii and PS 3 and Wii is the console that feels like it actually is something different and i don't get bored to it as i do with many PS3 games that just feel like i have played already hundreds of time.
Thought PS3 is the better console even if i play the fraction i used to play beofre, but with friends and large TV you can get so much out of the Wii than any other console. If the console has under 18 age group games it dosen't mean it's a kids console.


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The wii has captured many nongamers but how many are going to transition from a person with a new trendy toy into a gamer? Just going again by my workplace and other people who own a wii it seems as if gamers such as myself and friends are going to be overshadowed.

He has a point and I think he is right. How many gamers here still play the wii? I am still waiting for the new Crystal Chronicles but other than that my Wii isn't getting much play time. Maybe if I was more interested in 'games' such as wii fit, I could join in with trumpeting the wii as a growing addition to gaming culture. But for some reason I feel like they just created a new NICHE market within the gaming community.]]>Jul 15th 2008 11:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/
I don't neccesarily agree. I was a big fan of the original XBOX and loved Halo 1 & 2, Need For Speed Underground, NCAA 06, etc. However, I just got a Wii because its affordable and fun as hell... so far I have the Nintendo exclusives (Super Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart, Zelda) but I am getting NCAA 09 today and from the reviews, it looks great.

I don't really need my game system to be the "center of my digital world." That's what a computer is for and it hooks up just fine to my stereo and TV if I need to play music or do something else. I'm of the mindset that my gamesystem should be fun, which the Wii certainly is. I would no doubt think about getting a 360 or PS3 if I was not a poor law student (if not just for the Blu-Ray player in the PS3), but for now, I'm having a great time with the Wii.

Just my thoughts.]]>Jul 15th 2008 11:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/
But we have to get out of the mindset that everyone who owns a video game console is a hardcore gamer or technophile. We are not representative of the typical gamer. If that were true, the PlayStation, PlayStation 2, DS and Wii would not have accrued such phenomenal sales figures between them.

Sony are falling into the trap of thinking in terms of the hardware's capabilities and targeting to what is clearly a niche - as impressed as anyone is with audio-visual fidelity of new technology, the best selling home and portable systems are the most underpowered in that regard.]]>Jul 15th 2008 11:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/Jul 15th 2008 3:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/
My mother (56) and aunt (48), neither of which have ever played a video game in their lives, both own a wii and wii fit. They would have NEVER bought a PS3.

In my opinion the Wii is not a kid or an adult console, it is a casual console. You can play games like sport and fit (not really a game I guess) with one button.

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Hasn't it already blown past the 360 in units sold?

And they have this other little thing called the DS.

Good God! Nintendo is f-ing brilliant. ]]>Jul 15th 2008 9:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/
The Wii is absolutely loved by children all the way up to the senior crowd in retirement homes...

So if by "niche" he means: People, then I guess he's right...]]>Jul 15th 2008 1:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/Jul 15th 2008 9:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/Jul 15th 2008 10:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/Jul 15th 2008 11:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/Jul 15th 2008 9:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/Jul 15th 2008 10:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/Nintendo can say whatever they want.

The truth is people will spend their console budget $$ on either a Wii, a PS3 or an XBox. That fact alone makes them all competitors.

The fringe that have to have two or three consoles probably don't make up a significant share of the market.



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Nintendo didn't have the power to pull off a system like that. Instead they completely re-thought the game system and pulled off a winner.

They're competing alright. And they're kicking ass.]]>Jul 15th 2008 10:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/Jul 15th 2008 10:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/Jul 15th 2008 10:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/Jul 15th 2008 10:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/Jul 15th 2008 10:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/]]>Jul 15th 2008 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/Jul 15th 2008 10:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/
They do it so it is easier for others to realize that there isn't going to be any sort of rational argument made in the post.]]>Jul 15th 2008 10:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/
Yes, that's why I use it, lol. Bill Gates is rolling in cash (but he's also very charitable, awwww. I love Billy.)]]>Jul 15th 2008 10:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/
@Steven

Yeah, you gotta love Billy, not only does he give to developing countries, he also gives millions in software out to school districts!

But yeah, I agree with Silverfrog, and because Sony is goign after a different target audience, that means the Wii is not a direct competitor with the PS3, but I you better believe Sony (and Microsoft) wants to compete with the large market share/audience that the Wii just created!]]>Jul 15th 2008 10:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/Jul 15th 2008 10:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/
Well, atleast there's plenty of competition, better for the consumers! =)]]>Jul 15th 2008 10:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/Jul 15th 2008 11:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/
And for the record I have a PS3 and 360. And personally I think the Wii is overpriced for what it is but clearly over 22 million people worldwide disagree with me.]]>Jul 15th 2008 10:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/Jul 15th 2008 10:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/Jul 15th 2008 10:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/Jul 15th 2008 10:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lvii-howard-stringer-says-the-wii-is-n/
The more complex and realistic graphics get, the more nuanced environments a game developer can create. This in turn allows for more complex emotional responses from the gamer.

Not all games require this, and nor should they aspire towards it. Other games do. Super Mario Galaxy doesn't need anything fancier than a Wii to play, but Bioshock, Assassins Creed &, GTA IV (for example) benefit greatly from the graphics, and not in a flashy special effects way. It's just more immersive.

Imagine GTA IV rendered at a Mario graphics level. It's just wouldn't cut it. On the other hand, Mario doesn't need the level of detail that GTA does, and in some cases, I've seen platformers that use too much flash, and it irritates me.]]>Jul 15th 2008 10:58AM