http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/ Engadget Comments for Nokia firms up touchscreen phone plans, says it will focus on 'mid-range' markets http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/Jul 17th 2008 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/Nokia just couldn't have 40% of market share if it had average products.
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No point in being smug about Nokia. Already the company's stock is being downgraded as we speak. There's more competition and less profits for Nokia. I don't think Nokia will fail by a longshot due to it's huge global sales, but it just can't sit back and think that because it's on top now, it will always stay that way. General Motors is a prime example of that. Fat, lazy and slow to adjust to changing times is not a good thing in a poor economy.]]>Jul 17th 2008 10:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/Moto was doing crappy for years and no one wasen't doing anything. I don't know how good it did show in USA years back, but Moto started it's fall way back here in Europe. Nokia dosen't have any sign of any bad times currently.

Like Eldar from Mobile-review have said Nokia's next years portfolio is dominant compared to example SE's that should be pushing some quality products currently.
Sure there's more competition now and that's great for us consumers, but i can't see anything that would hurt Nokia. They got by far the best place towards future.
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Nokia makes unspectacular phones, just as an underachieving student writes an unspectacular paper that they know will help them achieve a passing grade, but not the A they're capable of. The phones serve their purpose, and will satisfy my parents, just as the paper I wrote that earned me that B- might've satisfied my parents who were ignoring of the topic when I was in high school.

But they won't wow anyone who's truly paying attention -- in the paper's case my teacher, and in the phone's case, a consumer like me.

Feel free to disagree with me, but as someone who's both owned multiple Nokia phones and has written mediocre papers to get the grade when I could've gotten the A with some effort -- that's Nokia's bag.]]>Jul 17th 2008 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/Jul 17th 2008 12:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/
Right now I'm rocking a flip phone without the flip -- a freak accident chopped the top half of it off -- 3 years of using the phone helped me to master the menus without having to see them so I can still make speakerphone calls -- saving up for a iPhone 3G... and no I won't argue them vs Nokia....

I'm just saying Nokia is successful the same way that Nintendo is.... take smaller risks and satisfy those who are easy to satisfy or don't know any better. ]]>Jul 17th 2008 12:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/Jul 17th 2008 2:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/B students work for C students.
All of the above work for me.]]>Jul 17th 2008 2:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/Jul 17th 2008 2:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/A'la 5800(tube) that 5xxx index should tell you that it's mid range phone that means 3.2mp and WiFi.
Imo they are going the right way as making the first new age TS Nokia phone a mass market phone(Nokia is after all here for the masses) and giving us phone junkies N or E series TS phone later on.

That btw by Eldar(mobile phone guru that gets every SE, Nokia, Samsung and Moto phone 1 year before anybody else) says that the proto of the TS flagship has been out for sometime already.]]>Jul 17th 2008 9:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/
I dont totally agree with that. Some of the mid range phones are pretty good.]]>Jul 17th 2008 9:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/
No voice dialing? Thats so 1999. No video recording? What were they thinking?]]>Jul 17th 2008 11:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/
Also, Nokia's said before that touch like Tube will test the market before they go big w/ the NXX touchscreen varieties.]]>Jul 17th 2008 12:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/
Also, Nokia's said before that touch like Tube will test the market before they go big w/ the NXX touchscreen varieties.]]>Jul 17th 2008 12:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/only an unlocked $199 phone from other company
with 10MP, GPS, Draft N, Dolby surround 5.1,
4G ready and battery life of 2 centuries will be spectacular,

or any phone from apple.]]>Jul 17th 2008 9:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/ Draft N, 1TB SSD,5.1 surround speakers,
2 Centuries of battery life with an unlocked price of
199USD will be spectacular,
or any bloody thing from the fruit company.]]>Jul 17th 2008 9:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/What I mean is:
Engadget's reply system is weird]]>Jul 17th 2008 9:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/Jul 17th 2008 9:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/Jul 17th 2008 9:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/
You mean Nokia isn't going to buy Palm!?
]]>Jul 17th 2008 9:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/This is what the iPhone is aimed at too - a mass market smart phone. There are relatively fewer that demand the bleeding edge, it is a normal distribution.
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IMHO, the Tube is a very poor first device for S60 touch. It's always important to make a good impression when you're doing something new and so far, the Tube can only dissapoint.]]>Jul 17th 2008 10:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/
I see...]]>Jul 17th 2008 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://talkaboutnseries.com/2008/06/09/nokia-n79-n85-and-5800-xpressmedia-tube-pictures-revealed/

Yup, those pictures show it clearly.

14.5mm is incredibly thick for an all touchscreen device. There aren't any numerical buttons nor is there any sliding mechanism. Why is it so thick?]]>Jul 17th 2008 10:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/
Nice camera = thick phone
Crap camera = thin phone

Its that simple.
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Samsung Tocco. 5 Megapixel AF Camera. All touchscreen phone. 11.6mm.]]>Jul 17th 2008 1:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/Jul 17th 2008 10:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/Jul 17th 2008 10:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/
It's been stated all over the place that the whole UI can be navigated using fingers. Nokia are including a stylus mainly for hand-writing recognition.]]>Jul 17th 2008 10:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/]]>Jul 17th 2008 10:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/
I was on earnings call today and they haven't mentioned any Tube or any touch screen.

What they mentioned is mid-range phones(not touch) accounts for 50% of total sales.

They displayed a slide which have 2nd half portfolio.None of them seemed like touch to me.

Go and check PDF file in Nokia's Investor relations site.
www.nokia.com/ir]]>Jul 17th 2008 10:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/Aug 11th 2008 9:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/
iLike iWant =)
]]>Jul 17th 2008 11:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/So if Nokia's mid end phone has 3G, WiFi, GPS and so on. Is the 2 years old N95 phone from the future =D]]>Jul 17th 2008 11:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/1. when it comes to mid-range for Nokia, it's typically a pretty well-spec'd phone for the developed markets!
2. For the emerging markets (who don't bother too much with Wifi or even basic data connectivity more often than not but look for the camera, and the integrated MP3 player software as the biggest attractions) Nokia can strip down the same mid-range phones (no wifi/3G) and the consumers will still be happy!

When it comes to Nokia, high-end and mid-range phone distinctions are rather blurry. the Nokia N81 if compared to the N95/N82 is supposed to be a mid-range phone. What does it lack? a lower camera (3.2 vs. 5MP with Carl Zeiss lens), no GPS (can be somewhat mitigated with A-GPS) and maybe a lower processor (although I think the N81 has a faster processor than an N82), may or may not have 3G (that's a toss-up... very few emerging markets have capable 3G networks anyway).

If you get really nit-picky, then Wifi might not be available. If Nokia's targeting the mid-range emerging markets (or intending their phones to essentially be entertainment devices), they will have multiple variants with spec options at different price points, allowing users to have a lot of choice.

And that is Nokia's business model. That's how they flood the market and how they are successful. I personally know a lot of people who've used Nokia phones and just cannot give it up for anything else! So, I believe that Nokia's major attraction is their previous design philosophy which concentrates on simplicity, which people like my dad and mom are very very happy with. Show them anything other than a Nokia and they cringe at how 'complex' it is to use.

Don't count Nokia out without giving them a year with their new product... Don't bet against the 5000lb gorilla in the corner! ;-)]]>Jul 17th 2008 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/Jul 17th 2008 12:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/
And Nokia is very different from Motorola Mobile division. The latter had all eggs in the same basket, a one-trick pony: the Razr.]]>Jul 17th 2008 3:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/Jul 17th 2008 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/
And for those saying that Nokia makes mediocre phones, when the N95 was introduced 2 years ago, it had most of the features that the current iphone has (gps, 3g, wifi) and some that is still doesn't have (5mp camera with flash). So I would expect a new mid-market touchscreen phone to have very similar specs the the current iphone from a hardware standpoint. When it comes to the UI, that is a different story, and clearly companies like apple are ahead of the game. But I would much rather see Nokia take there time and release a thoughtful touchscreen UI for S60, rather than rush some iphone wannabe UI to market like many other companies have done (i.e. samsung instinct). It think its a good think that Nokia is taking their time, and trying to do things right. With as much market share as they command, they don't need to crap out some half baked idea in the next couple of months. ]]>Jul 17th 2008 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/Jul 17th 2008 1:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/Jul 17th 2008 3:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/Forgot the N-Series???]]>Jul 17th 2008 5:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/Jul 17th 2008 7:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/17/nokia-firms-up-touchscreen-phone-plans-says-it-will-focus-on-m/the "tube" is shown, though i think it is more of a mock up..

still good to know that it is bruce wayne's personal phone of choice :)]]>Jul 17th 2008 10:31PM