http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/Jul 22nd 2008 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/
If this company knows whats good for them, they pay whatever it takes to make this the next Bond car. lol]]>Jul 22nd 2008 4:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/Jul 22nd 2008 4:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/Jul 22nd 2008 5:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/Tesla, thanks for setting the trend!

Toyota and Honda, are you taking notes????]]>Jul 22nd 2008 7:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/

EXACTLY! The Prius hybrid system is excellent -- now put it in a car people want to buy!! The Lexus GS 450 Hybrid is a sweet car, but it only gets 25MPG! That's great considering the ~350HP engine, but most people would rather get better mileage than have that much power.

I want to see hybrid mid-size/compact sport sedans that get 35+ MPG!

- Infiniti G35 or M35,
- Lincoln MKS
- Cadillac CTS-V,
- Honda Accord (with a *REAL* Hybrid, not that crap they were selling)
- Volkswagen Passat and Jetta
- Saab 9-5
- Acura TL/TSX
- BMW 3 series
- MB C320

WHERE ARE THE GOOD LOOKING, MID-SIZE SEDAN HYBRIDS???
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Honda Civic hybrid looks good. The soon to be Volt looks great and obviously this car looks awesome. But remember that we need real world cars for the masses. This isn't it. That's the one thing Toyota got right with the Prius. It's affordable for many. Too bad it's so fucking ugly. I can't believe people like the looks of it for all the slamming the American domestic auto manufacturers get for styling and I can't believe all the slamming American domestics get for reliability when they mostly range right along with the Japanese companies and have been doing so for many years now.]]>Jul 23rd 2008 6:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/
also whats that blue thing in the wheel is that just the disc brakes?]]>Jul 22nd 2008 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/Jul 22nd 2008 4:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/Jul 22nd 2008 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/Jul 22nd 2008 6:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/09/lightning-gt-ev-sports-car-coming-this-month/]]>Jul 22nd 2008 7:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/
Not so for a cellphone. In fact, if a cellphone has, say, a 1000mAh battery, 5 amps (reasonable for 120V house current) could charge the battery in 12 minutes or so, if the battery technology would take it.]]>Jul 22nd 2008 8:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/Jul 22nd 2008 10:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/
Three phase industrial power is a LOT different than what is delivered to your home. It means that you have three sine waves of power and each is 90 degrees out of phase with each other. You do not get anything like that with standard house power. Think of three sine waves with each successive wave shifted 90 degrees out of phase with the previous wave. That's three phase power and it packs a serious punch. Normal house power is single phase.]]>Jul 23rd 2008 6:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/
Gimme a break... **EVERYONE,** are you taking notes. There's a lot more than Toyota and Honda out there, even if you still believe that their quality is better than "American" cars. Toyota and Honda are made in the US just as much (or even MORE than) the big 3 in Detroit. The "import is better than american" attitude is a thing of the past.]]>Jul 24th 2008 8:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/
http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/news/releases/pressrelease.aspx?ID=2007130

Don't think that Toyota and Honda are building with more US content than the US companies. I just don't believe that's true. They all world source. It's just a modern fact of the auto industry and in fact it was by design of the Japanese manufacturers. The US just followed suit. I think where the Japanese mostly excel is with four cylinder engines (not that they don't have some great V6 and even V8 engines). But when it comes to V6 and V8 engines you can't beat the reliability and economy of many US brands. Buick's 3800 V6 is one of the best engines ever. I personally recorded 32 MPG on the highway with a Buick Lucerne (not a small car by any means) and I have owned a couple of cars with that engine. They're strong, reliable and economical.]]>Jul 25th 2008 2:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/Jul 22nd 2008 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/
I believe you are shallow and pedantic.]]>Jul 22nd 2008 11:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/
if no then lame.

if not its not a true sports car in that price class]]>Jul 22nd 2008 4:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/
if they could do that then it would be worth it once they can get it priced down to about 80-90k]]>Jul 22nd 2008 4:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/
Hint: It's called GT.

For a GT, your speed expectations are quite reasonable, at least. For early electric, I'd expect some sacrifice on range, but 800 miles is still reasonable.]]>Jul 22nd 2008 4:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/Jul 22nd 2008 4:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/What is called a GT?
What is not a true sports car in what price class?

Please elaborate.]]>Jul 22nd 2008 4:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/Perhaps reading the engadget post (up at the top of the page) and the comment I replied to would help?

The car is called GT. It costs 0.24 M$.

There are no sports cars in that price range, making gamedude's comment that "if not its not a true sports car in that price class" somewhat laughable.]]>Jul 22nd 2008 5:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_tourer]]>Jul 22nd 2008 5:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/Jul 22nd 2008 6:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/Jul 22nd 2008 7:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/Jul 22nd 2008 4:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/Jul 22nd 2008 4:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/Jul 22nd 2008 4:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/
Kudos to them for actually building one; its the first "production" (if it does go to production) E-car with wheel-mounted motors. But really, charging time is not an issue for 90% of the driving most of us would do. You'd drive to work, plug it in, come out to a fully charged car, then drive home, plug it in, and wake up to a fully charged car. Quick charge times are only relevent over very long distances (200 miles +), and as such, I don't think this tech is worth the crazy premium over li-on. If I'm driving further than that, I'd rather take a train or fly, or buy a plug-in hybrid. ]]>Jul 22nd 2008 5:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/
I'm not complaining, though. Infinitely better than basing it on a Lamborghini Diablo kit-car:

http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/18/shelby-sets-out-to-build-ultimate-aero-ev-the-worlds-fastest-e/]]>Jul 22nd 2008 5:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/
http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=ferrari%20599]]>Jul 22nd 2008 5:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/Jul 23rd 2008 6:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/Jul 22nd 2008 4:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/Jul 22nd 2008 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/Jul 22nd 2008 4:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/Jul 22nd 2008 4:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/Jul 22nd 2008 5:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/

i can see electric being worthwile in another 10 years, as long as the oil companies and government don't kill it]]>Jul 22nd 2008 4:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/Jul 22nd 2008 4:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/Con: Half the charge-to-weight ratio of Lithium-ion. Yes, half. These batteries supply half the power of a Lithium-ion pack with the same weight.

So you can cut the travel speed in half, or the travel distance in half. Your call.

We need to move toward HIGHER charge-to-weight ratios, not lower ones.]]>Jul 22nd 2008 6:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/
(Or... twice as much battery pack!)

We need improvement both ways; a breakthrough in charging, traded for a 50% cut in energy density? I think that's a net win; given time and funding, the energy density will be there soon enough.]]>Jul 22nd 2008 7:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/Jul 22nd 2008 8:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/
Would be nice to see this get tested on Top Gear, i'll watch out for it :)]]>Jul 22nd 2008 4:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/
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Then go back tearing around in petrol powered cars we'll never own for our amusement while shouting 'POWERRRR' :) ]]>Jul 23rd 2008 5:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/
Think of it this way, before Ford introduced the Model T in the US do you think cars were cheaper than horses? Most people used horses and bicycles because cars were rich people toys.]]>Jul 22nd 2008 4:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/22/lightnings-120-000-all-electric-sports-car-unveiled-in-london/Jul 22nd 2008 4:41PM