http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/ Engadget Comments for Nintendo failed to notify third-party devs of MotionPlus prior to E3 http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 10:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 11:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 11:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/
I've been a Nintendo fan for about 12 years, but right now I'm more than ready to admit Nintendo is a bad company with worse management.]]>Jul 23rd 2008 11:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 11:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 11:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/
This is just another example of that.]]>Jul 23rd 2008 11:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/
I think if Nintendo were going to announce MotionPlus on their own schedule, they would have waited until it was less than 4 months away from release and had at least one or two major developers on board with it.

But certainly Nintendo is stuck on the principle that success for its platforms depends solely upon themselves. Third parties have no loyalties that can't be bought by the highest bidder, and Nintendo has been bitten by this several times already.

I think Nintendo could do better if they worked more closely with (some) other developers, but this doesn't seem to come easy for them.]]>Jul 23rd 2008 5:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 11:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 2:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 11:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/"We weren't terribly impressed with Nintendo's recently unveiled MotionPlus add-on and we really wish there were some more games on the horizon to show us what its really capable of, but we're even more disappointed by this."

Or if it was meant to be a contradictory complaint.....well welcome to the internet. ]]>Jul 23rd 2008 11:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 11:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 11:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 11:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 12:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/
"We got into creative differences over the speech. I wrote it so that he'd say "developers" 37 times, but he only wanted to say "developers" 35 times. I told him that just didn't make any sense without those last two "developers"; that was the hook!"

Sarge - RvB PSA 4]]>Jul 23rd 2008 12:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 11:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 11:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/
Someone below said it best, Nintendo's mistreatment of 3rd party is systemic and would have led to the downfall of the company by now, if not for their unending ability to appeal to the masses. But I guess that's good for them, I suppose.

Sucks if you're a dev that wants to actually work with Nintendo, though.]]>Jul 23rd 2008 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/
The guidelines and examples to meet certification... if you directly paste the text/code in from their guidelines you will fail certification because the guidelines are not correct.

We didn't hear anything about the motion plus accessory until it was announced at E3. Which is pretty dumb because I can quite literally throw a rock and hit Nintendo from where I'm sitting. Though I'm not terribly friendly with anybody at Nintendo, I have former coworkers who now work over there and many of my current coworkers have good friends who work at Nintendo. And still we heard nothing.

I could go on at length, but I think I'll save myself the increase in blood pressure and just say Nintendo is successful in spite of themselves. *sigh* I'm tired of working on the Wii, I want to make real games again.]]>Jul 23rd 2008 11:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 2:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/
Nintendo are not releasing the MotionPlus thing until late February / early March 2009.

So assuming developers received them after E3, would it really take them more than 7 months to include MotionPlus controls in a game they were developing? Even if they didn't use Nintendo's wiimote middleware it would take a months work tops to program for.

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I am willing to bet the bulk of development time is spent on level design and graphics, not mapping input...]]>Jul 23rd 2008 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/
You should go to IGN, watch the off-screen demos (where seeing the man's motion mapped perfectly to the game is truly amazing), then write an addendum to your blasé "review" apologizing for even bothering to write such a worthless article in the first place.

I think the biggest issue I had with your "review" is the fact that you seem to think that this level of precision was something "the Wii promised at launch". You know, considering these kind of gyros were just invented and/or became affordable in the past year.]]>Jul 23rd 2008 11:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 1:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 24th 2008 2:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/
I'm looking at the front page and I see "No one cares" "not impressed" etc.. Way to make stories dealing with the very topics of your website exciting. It's like reading a car enthusiast magazine and every car review is just like "yeah, it's a car I guess."

Fucking boring.]]>Jul 23rd 2008 11:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/
As Garfield once said, 'They're doing it, you're watching them: who has the problem?'

The headlines on engadget are dreadful. If it wasn't for the infrequency of the updates, I'd be back at Gizmodo like a shot. ]]>Jul 23rd 2008 12:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 11:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 11:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 11:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 2:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 11:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 11:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 12:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 1:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 1:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 1:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/
mario was the easiest mario ever made. there was no difficult stages , no ' oh man , ive died 20 times but i know this time ill do it even though its getting late and i havnt had my dinner ' moments , except the 'collect all the blue coins' levels , which seemed like an after thought to compensate real gamers for tricking them into buying a baby game system, cos thats what it is .. its a baby game system for thumbsuckers.

you want proof? look.. the wii-mote is wearing a nappy .... on its head!]]>Jul 23rd 2008 2:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 2:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 3:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 3:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 4:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 4:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/23/nintendo-failed-to-notify-third-party-devs-of-motionplus-prior-t/Jul 23rd 2008 4:41PM