http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/ Engadget Comments for Dell explains NVIDIA GPU issues, throws out BIOS updates to help http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/
nvidia and dell need to own up and send out replacements, good thing I have full 4 year onsite on my xps]]>Jul 26th 2008 7:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/Jul 26th 2008 7:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/Jul 26th 2008 10:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/Aug 13th 2008 10:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/Jul 26th 2008 10:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/
PS new dell drivers reduced my windows index score on graphics to 3.2 from 4.8.

PPS My power supply failed 3 days ago (message saying performance has been reduced due to lack of power (have 65w adapter). - GPU and CPU sucking too much juice.]]>Jul 26th 2008 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/
When my system starts up, the hottest it runs is at 62 degrees Celsius. Right now? About 26 degrees cooler. Even when I get a new Studio laptop, I'm still going to install I8KFANGUI whether I really need it on there or not and considering I rarely use battery power for any significant amount of time, power consumption isn't much of an issue to me either (though I can still get about 3 hours on battery with the screen dimmed and I8KFANGUI running).]]>Jul 26th 2008 3:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/i will keep you all on how this will all work out for me]]>Jul 26th 2008 10:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/]]>Jul 27th 2008 9:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/Jul 26th 2008 7:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/
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]]>Jul 26th 2008 8:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/Jul 26th 2008 9:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/Jul 26th 2008 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/]]>Jul 26th 2008 1:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/Don't forget to alternate between that and sticking it in the freezer. That will make sure you get as much "temperature fluctuation" as possible. I'm sure a drop from 150F to 20F shouldn't be too detrimental to the "weak die / packaging material".]]>Jul 26th 2008 8:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/Jul 28th 2008 8:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/
My replacement now works like a dream; but tbh no amount of BIOS updates will ever solve the problem; Dell needs to replace all units surely?]]>Jul 26th 2008 7:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/Jul 26th 2008 7:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/Jul 26th 2008 7:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/
It should read "We have set the fan speed to 100% this will drastically reduce battery life and sound like a jet taking off, Have a nice day"]]>Jul 26th 2008 8:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/Very lame. Making the fan blow all the time isn't the fix, fix is to replace all of those bad NVIDEA parts and same with all the vendors that have used them.]]>Jul 26th 2008 7:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/Jul 26th 2008 8:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/
And nVidia really screwed this up, hope they get this fixed properly and avoid this sort of problem, for good.]]>Jul 26th 2008 8:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/Jul 27th 2008 1:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/Jul 26th 2008 8:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/
I did not pay for doggy GPU........... How can they treat consumer like that, new BIOS still not the answer to the problem built-in to the chip.

These defected products will still... wear out easier than normal don't understand why they never recall.]]>Jul 26th 2008 11:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/
Im tempted to do the opposite; overclock the crap out of my M1530 GPU, and block all the intakes. If its going to fail, I want it to fail ASAP, while the machine is under warranty.
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so now WTF am i supposed to do.... download their so called half assed solution and run my frickin fan at fullspeed so that it drains my already inefficient battery at light speed ... ... ???

dell i am asking you...?? is this the way you guys come up with attractive price tags that lure us into cheapo quality ? ?, so that we can spend the rest of our lives with customer support....

nice try.... how about this, there is this huge update called "crysis", all we have to do is run that game at full settings and you know what the best thing is your lovely fan is going to spin twice as fast as you would expect.....

now won't that make you happy?]]>Jul 26th 2008 9:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/07/07/nvidia-meltdown-blame-game

"While we have not been able to determine a root cause for these failures, testing suggests a weak material set of die/package combination, system thermal management designs, and customer use patterns are contributing factors"

So wait... it's 1st nVidia's suppliers, 2nd the companies that use their chips, and the 3rd the USER's fault. Great. I'll just stop turning my laptop on or off, that should improve matters.]]>Jul 26th 2008 9:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/Jul 26th 2008 9:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/Jul 26th 2008 9:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/Jul 26th 2008 9:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/Jul 26th 2008 9:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/Jul 26th 2008 11:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/Jul 26th 2008 9:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/Jul 26th 2008 9:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/
"I am understanding that the laptop I purchased has a faulty Video card in it and Dells response is to just make the fan stay on to control temperature. Quoted from dell “The issue is a weak die/packaging material set, which may fail with GPU temperature fluctuations” There is no way to fix a known hardware issue with a software update. Putting a Band-Aid on a trauma wound never fixes it, maybe slows it down, how is just turning the fan on 100% all the time going to fix this issue? This issue will significantly reduce the value of my system let alone life expectantly of other parts in the laptop. I know I did not purchase a machine that needs to sound like a jet engine all the time. How is this going to be remedied? Am I going to need to replace my machine with one that is not affected by this issue? "]]>Jul 26th 2008 9:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/Jul 26th 2008 9:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/
2. Apple, like all other companies, is easily susceptible to problems like this. Remember faulty logic boards on the iBooks? The overheating problems with the MBP? Those were a "as they break" replacement. All of these companies skip the crucial QA testing required for these devices just so they can get the products to market as fast as they can. Getting a Mac doesn't leave you any safer than getting a Dell or HP.

3. So you replaced your M1330 with 2 laptops that have integrated graphics? What a downgrade.]]>Jul 26th 2008 10:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/Jul 26th 2008 10:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/Jul 26th 2008 11:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/
So far this has only been announced as an issue with the Nvidia Geforce 8400m and 8600m Dell and HP laptops. Before wrapping your laptop in a towel and trying to run Crysis, call tech support and demand a replacement. This news was released in an Nvidia press release about three weeks ago.

And for anyone cursing the companies for a defective product, it happens. Nvidia, Dell and HP all did not want this. Nvidia's (NVDA) stock plunged 30% in one day after they announced this issue and the resulting $200 million write off.]]>Jul 26th 2008 12:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/Jul 26th 2008 12:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/
A downgrade is not defined by the way it affects a person. If you go from a Lexus to a Kia, you downgraded, regardless of the fact that all you needed was something with 4 wheels and an engine to take you from A to B.

You went from a dedicated graphics core to two integrated pieces of shit. You downgraded, no matter how you wish to spin it.]]>Jul 26th 2008 4:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/Jul 26th 2008 11:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/dell-explains-nvidia-gpu-issues-throws-out-bios-updates-to-help/
Every manufacturer that has used these chips are effected, not just DELL.

Get your facts straight and stop bashing Dell for something they can't control.]]>Jul 26th 2008 10:30AM