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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microwave process could cut cost of lithium-ion batteries]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</guid><description><![CDATA["Microwave process could cut cost of lithium-ion batteries"<br><br>its good to hear the news doesn't change a week after the world hears it. i guess better late than never.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[v3xx]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jul 30th 2008 7:10PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microwave process could cut cost of lithium-ion batteries]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</guid><description><![CDATA[At first glance I thought "Arumugam Manthiram" was the new battery name. lol.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[OneLove]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jul 31st 2008 12:57PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microwave process could cut cost of lithium-ion batteries]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</guid><description><![CDATA[awesome! of course they'll be cheaper if you take less time to make it. there is some formula for that but I can't remember it. ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[bolezhinkov]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jul 30th 2008 7:11PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microwave process could cut cost of lithium-ion batteries]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</guid><description><![CDATA[Ahh yes, the classic Eisenbergerer formula:<br><br>TIME TO MAKE * ???? = CHEAPER<br><br>Where ???? is your favorite number.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Podaman]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jul 30th 2008 7:42PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microwave process could cut cost of lithium-ion batteries]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</guid><description><![CDATA[bolezhinkov:<br><br>time - ??? = PROFIT! ($$$)<br><br>or in word/gnome form.<br><br>1. Produce batteries cheaper.<br>2. ???<br>3. PROFIT! ($$$)<br><br>Either way it's all good.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jul 30th 2008 8:16PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microwave process could cut cost of lithium-ion batteries]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</guid><description><![CDATA[Poddude,<br><br>you forgot "Profit"]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[phanbouy]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jul 30th 2008 8:23PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microwave process could cut cost of lithium-ion batteries]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</guid><description><![CDATA[thanks a million, weblogs inc, for hiding James' comment, thereby making me redundant. you're the best. and by best i mean it's a crime someone gets paid for that code.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[phanbouy]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jul 30th 2008 8:34PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microwave process could cut cost of lithium-ion batteries]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</guid><description><![CDATA[oh I see it still - for references sake, profit should be in there somewhere, you're right. maybe what I was actually thinking was time = money. ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[bolezhinkov]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jul 30th 2008 8:35PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microwave process could cut cost of lithium-ion batteries]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</guid><description><![CDATA["by the time they roll off the assembly line"?<br>Like 1 month? Or like 20 years?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Shinigami]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jul 30th 2008 7:26PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microwave process could cut cost of lithium-ion batteries]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</guid><description><![CDATA[speed]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jake]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jul 30th 2008 7:33PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microwave process could cut cost of lithium-ion batteries]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</guid><description><![CDATA[Arumugam Manthiram -- that's so metal]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[idiot]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jul 30th 2008 7:33PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microwave process could cut cost of lithium-ion batteries]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</guid><description><![CDATA[Boring, I want to see those nanowire batteries that are supposedly 20x better than regular ones.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ricardo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jul 30th 2008 7:56PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microwave process could cut cost of lithium-ion batteries]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</guid><description><![CDATA[well, i want to see improved ultracapacitors.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[andres]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jul 30th 2008 8:02PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microwave process could cut cost of lithium-ion batteries]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</guid><description><![CDATA[@Andres<br><br>Flux Capacitor > Ultra Capacitor<br><br>Just for the record...]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[itlnstln]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jul 31st 2008 9:03AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microwave process could cut cost of lithium-ion batteries]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</guid><description><![CDATA[Right. Another innovation. I've been hearing about these innovations for years now, and I still have to put up with 1100 mah batteries in smartphones. I know I'm being impatient here, but every university and company out there keeps giving us news of some new breakthrough and nothing has changed.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jul 30th 2008 8:07PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microwave process could cut cost of lithium-ion batteries]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</guid><description><![CDATA[So if I stick my DS battery in the microwave it will become cheaper? ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Bleck]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jul 30th 2008 8:55PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microwave process could cut cost of lithium-ion batteries]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</guid><description><![CDATA[Even better, it'll become worthless!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Darryl]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jul 30th 2008 9:04PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microwave process could cut cost of lithium-ion batteries]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</guid><description><![CDATA[If by "cheaper" you mean "of a lower quality", i'd wager yes.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[phrogg]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jul 30th 2008 10:00PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microwave process could cut cost of lithium-ion batteries]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</guid><description><![CDATA[Hook 'em, Arumugam!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jul 31st 2008 12:23AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microwave process could cut cost of lithium-ion batteries]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</guid><description><![CDATA[It's a good idea to remember that batteries don't improve very much, nor very often.  Your cell phone, laptop computer and iPod require smaller batteries than past versions because improved electronics have reduced their power requirements.  This won't happen in an electric car: those hills are going to be just as steep, and air resistance won't change either.  Right now there are no batteries that are particularly suitable for use in an electric automobile; perhaps this manufacturing improvement will help.  ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[2n2222]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jul 31st 2008 5:25AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microwave process could cut cost of lithium-ion batteries]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</guid><description><![CDATA["particularly suitable" is a strange phrase to use there considering there are electric cars all over the world driving around right now on batteries.  Granted there is always room for improvement..]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[ds]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jul 31st 2008 11:03AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microwave process could cut cost of lithium-ion batteries]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</guid><description><![CDATA["It's a good idea to remember that batteries don't improve very much, nor very often."<br><br>A quick search for battery replacements for my Wallstreet G3 laptop (circa 1998) and ipod 3rd generation (circa 2005)  shows that replacement batteries are available with 28% and 35% more power than the original batteries.  I'd say those numbers constitute "much" and "often".<br><br><a href="http://www.powerbookmedic.com/Powerbook-G3-Battery-Wallstreet-LI-ION---NEW-p-16406.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.powerbookmedic.com/Powerbook-G3-Battery-Wallstreet-LI-ION---NEW-p-16406.html</a><br><a href="http://www.ipodbatterydepot.com/shopping/productdetails.asp?category1=&recordid=3" rel="nofollow">http://www.ipodbatterydepot.com/shopping/productdetails.asp?category1=&recordid=3</a><br><br>"Right now there are no batteries that are particularly suitable for use in an electric automobile"<br><br>Judging by the loads of positive reviews RAV4EV owners have given their electric vehicles (not to mention the outlandish ebay resale prices),  the battery technology of 10 years ago was "suitable".<br><br>So...... to 2n2222:  you are just flat wrong.  If oil prices stay high and battery prices come down,  you are going to see electric vehicle sales go through the roof.<br><br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Carcus]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jul 31st 2008 11:20AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microwave process could cut cost of lithium-ion batteries]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</guid><description><![CDATA["It's a good idea to remember that batteries don't improve very much,<br>nor very often."<br><br>A quick search for battery replacements for my Wallstreet G3 laptop<br>(circa 1998) and ipod 3rd generation (circa 2005)  shows that<br>replacement batteries are available with 28% and 35% more power than<br>the original batteries.  I'd say those numbers constitute "much" and<br>"often".<br><br><a href="http://www.powerbookmedic.com/Powerbook-G3-Battery-Wallstreet-LI-ION---NEW-p-16406.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.powerbookmedic.com/Powerbook-G3-Battery-Wallstreet-LI-ION---NEW-p-16406.html</a><br><a href="http://www.ipodbatterydepot.com/shopping/productdetails.asp?category1=&recordid=3" rel="nofollow">http://www.ipodbatterydepot.com/shopping/productdetails.asp?category1=&recordid=3</a><br><br>"Right now there are no batteries that are particularly suitable for<br>use in an electric automobile"<br><br>Judging by the loads of positive reviews RAV4EV owners have given<br>their electric vehicles (not to mention the outlandish ebay resale<br>prices),  the battery technology of 10 years ago was "suitable".<br><br>So...... to 2n2222:  you are just flat wrong.  If oil prices stay<br>high and battery prices come down,  you are going to see electric<br>vehicle sales go through the roof.<br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Carcus]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jul 31st 2008 11:23AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microwave process could cut cost of lithium-ion batteries]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</guid><description><![CDATA[Although 2n2222 comment may be picked at he still has a point--especially if you factor in cost.  Ever battery pack you read about in the press or technical literature is still under developement. You can not order a ready to use lithium ion battery for your electric car--if you had an electric car that is, unless you have $100,000 bucks for the Tesla and noones really sure yet what the life time and long term costs are there yet either. As for the electric RAV4, Toyota only sold 300 of them, so this is not exactly a success story despite what owners say.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Jackson]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Aug 3rd 2008 3:53PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microwave process could cut cost of lithium-ion batteries]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</guid><description><![CDATA[Useful links for EV battery discussions:<br><br><a href="http://www.evworld.com/article.cfm?page=article&storyid=1478" rel="nofollow">http://www.evworld.com/article.cfm?page=article&storyid=1478</a><br><br><a href="http://www.ev1.pair.com/charge_across_america/charge_html/nimh_test2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ev1.pair.com/charge_across_america/charge_html/nimh_test2.html</a><br><br>Link #1 is an article about the RAV4EV (1500 produced). Study the reader comments for a lively and informative discussion about battery cost and technology.<br><br>Link #2 is a review of the NIMH equipped EV1.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Carcus]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Aug 6th 2008 2:20AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Microwave process could cut cost of lithium-ion batteries]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/microwave-process-could-cut-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/</guid><description><![CDATA[and here's a piece of video history from 1990.  <br><br><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7694402778593676025" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7694402778593676025</a><br><br>Imagine what we could be driving today (18 years later!) if GM had only kept the research and development  going. ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Carcus]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Aug 6th 2008 2:47AM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>