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Uh, no. 3G is just short for 3rd Generation. It doesn't have anything to do with CDMA or GSM. CDMA (sprints) would be EV-DO and GSMs (T-mobile) would be UMTS. They're both 3G systems, just different underlying technology.]]>Jul 30th 2008 5:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/
Matt is exactly right. ]]>Jul 30th 2008 6:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/
GSM isnt UTMS, its HSUPA/HSPA/HSDPA. CDMA in foreign countries is UTMS, but i dont know if in the US EV-DO is considered UTMS or not.]]>Jul 30th 2008 8:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/Jul 30th 2008 6:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/
no, GSM 3G is UMTS, the HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA is considered 3.5G]]>Jul 30th 2008 8:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/Jul 30th 2008 9:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/
Most of what you said is wrong.

3G does not refer to any specific technology, rather it is an ITU definition which refers to high bandwidth mobile phone systems.

GSM is a 2G technology, and GPRS and EDGE are 2.5G (EDGE is sometimes called a 2.75G technology, although it's technically fast enough to be considered 3G).

IS-95 (CDMAone) is also a 2G technology. IS-95 is now obsolete, and it has been replaced by CDMA2000 (which is fully compatible). CDMA2000 1x-RTT is technically a "3G" technology, but, like EDGE, it's usually considered a 2.75G technology because it's not as fast as "true" 3G technologies.

CDMA2000 1x-EvDO is a 3G data-only technology that compliments CDMA2000 voice services. It operates at up to 2.4Mbps (downstream), or up to 3.1Mbps (revision A).

UMTS is the 3G successor to GSM. It includes both voice and data support. Phones use either GSM/GPRS/EDGE or UMTS at one time, not both. Phones can switch between UMTS and GSM at any time, including during a call (if the network supports it). UMTS data operates at up to 384kbps.

HSDPA is a data-only technology which compliments UMTS. It operates at 1.8Mbps, 3.6Mbps, or even higher, and is sometimes referred to as a 3.5G technology.

NOTE: In the following sections, I use "T-Mobile" to refer to T-Mobile's US division. T-Mobile also operates many other mobile networks around the world.

AT&T and T-Mobile use GSM/GPRS/EDGE and UMTS/HDSPA. Sprint (non-Nextel), Verizon, and Alltel use CDMA2000 (including 1x-RTT and 1x EV-DO).

AT&T and T-Mobile us different bands for both GSM/GPRS/EDGE and UMTS/HSDPA. T-Mobile use the PCS band (1900MHz) for GSM/GPRS/EDGE and the AWS band (1700MHz) for UMTS/HSDPA. AT&T uses the Cellular band (850MHz) and the PCS band (1900MHz) for both UMTS/HSDPA and GSM/GPRS/EDGE.

Most modern GSM phones are "quadband", supporting both European bands (900MHz/1800MHz) and both North American bands (850MHz/1900MHz). That means they work equally well on AT&T's and T-Mobile's GSM/GPRS/EGDE networks.

Unfortunately, there are no phones that support both T-Mobile's UMTS/HSDPA bands (AWS) and AT&T's bands (Cellular/PCS).]]>Jul 31st 2008 1:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/Jul 31st 2008 9:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?section_id=617&doc_id=153164&f_src=flffour is HSDPA (High Speed Downlink Packet Access)

You are going to need a cellphone that has HSDPA capabilities, and not just "3G".]]>Jul 31st 2008 11:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/Jul 31st 2008 1:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/Jul 30th 2008 5:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/Jul 30th 2008 5:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/Jul 30th 2008 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/Jul 30th 2008 6:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/
But way to hate without knowing what the f&$k you are talking about]]>Jul 30th 2008 11:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/Jul 31st 2008 2:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/Jul 30th 2008 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/Jul 30th 2008 6:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/Jul 30th 2008 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/Jul 30th 2008 5:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/Jul 30th 2008 5:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/Jul 30th 2008 5:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/1 market, 27 locations.
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Selfpwn]]>Jul 30th 2008 5:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/Jul 30th 2008 6:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/Jul 30th 2008 6:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/
hahaha. Sorry, I had to. The engadget team didn't. ]]>Jul 30th 2008 5:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/
No, really, you didn't have to.]]>Jul 30th 2008 5:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/Jul 30th 2008 5:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/
They fit my needs perfectly well.]]>Jul 30th 2008 5:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/Jul 30th 2008 6:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/Jul 30th 2008 6:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/Jul 30th 2008 6:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/
And their customer service has always been great. My reception sucks in my office, but that's the only pain point for me so far with T-Mobile. ATT definitely has better coverage in Seattle, but for the cost you can't beat T-Mo.]]>Jul 30th 2008 7:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/
I'm curious, what features do you lose by using an unlocked iPhone on T-Mobile vs. using it on AT&T?]]>Jul 30th 2008 9:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/Jul 30th 2008 11:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/30/t-mobile-3g-service-coming-october-1-to-27-markets/
Plus T-Mobile offers much better rates. If I was to switch to AT&T from my current T-Mobile plan, it would cost me about $300/mo instead of $125/mo (4 phones, 1000 minutes, 3 with unlimited data, all with unlimited SMS). And with the superior coverage, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out which is the better choice.
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I must be a retard. ]]>Jul 30th 2008 6:02PM