http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/ Engadget Comments for Pioneer finds 20-layer 500GB Blu-ray Disc "feasible" http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2010 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 1:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 1:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 2:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 2:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 3:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/
I just spit coffee all over. That was damned funny.]]>Aug 5th 2008 4:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 11:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/]]>Aug 6th 2008 4:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 1:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Now you can finally burn all the p0rn on your drive to one convenient single 500GB disc, and allocate hd space for new p0rn downloads... sweet...]]>Aug 5th 2008 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 4:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/I hope that comforts you.
]]>Aug 6th 2008 2:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 1:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 1:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 1:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 2:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 1:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/
Oh yeah, I like the 500GB drive too.]]>Aug 5th 2008 7:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/
Oh yeah, I like the 500GB drive too.]]>Aug 5th 2008 7:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/This tech would be sweet. An entire season of tv on one disk. I guess it would be useful for 1440p/2160p when it starts being used. Not enough space for 4320p though.]]>Aug 5th 2008 1:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 1:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 1:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/
if you put a one layered cd in the best cd burner available, you have about a 5% failure rate immediately, which is not to mention over a long time. trusting some chinese lowest bidder to find and utilize 20 optical layers on a plastic blu-ray disc with no errors is really far fetched.

so knock yourself out guys, keep on hoping for the best when you burn those discs, try not to keep track of the coasters, and definitely try to ignore that networking is getting faster, usb sticks are getting cheaper, and a 500gb hard drive is down to 50 bucks.

imagine scraping up a disc that has 500gb of important data on it.

cd's and dvds are on their way out, its time for the wild, off center, loud, unreliable media to disappear, and not a moment too soon. ]]>Aug 5th 2008 1:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 1:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 1:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 1:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/
Beat you up in high school, hm?]]>Aug 5th 2008 2:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/
And...believe it or not, they are only part of the Blu Ray Alliance...so make sure you spread the hate evenly...]]>Aug 5th 2008 3:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 6th 2008 2:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 1:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 1:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/
The question is:

But can you math?]]>Aug 5th 2008 2:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 5:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 1:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/
nilay ryan and josh wanna come over and watch??]]>Aug 5th 2008 1:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Nah, what we need is another of those "Star Wars Trilogy: Director's Cut High Definition Blu-Ray Edition."
(hohoho, I kid)]]>Aug 5th 2008 2:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Too late, it'll be your fault when it happens!]]>Aug 5th 2008 4:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/This technolgy will last all of 2 seconds when holograpic memeory is brought to the front which I think Nintendo is playing a part of developing.]]>Aug 5th 2008 1:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 1:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/
I think the only reason DVD got so popular over VHS was because it added "special features." People don't really care about picture quality.

Hell, I know more than a few people who think the definition of HDTV is "a tv that is flat and you can hang it on the wall."

Blu-ray's slow adoption rate is a result of consumer ignorance. Nobody knows what it's for outside of a few buzzwords that they don't really understand. I really doubt that there are a significant number of people who are holding off because they think their upconverting players give comparable picture quality. I would be *shocked* if a significant percentage of consumers have even heard of upconverting players.]]>Aug 5th 2008 2:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 2:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/
Yes, the disks will be a bit higher price for a while, but this is not just about disk price. When Toshiba/Microsoft were giving away free movies with a HD DVD player, the BD fans were yelling that they were trying to buy the market. Sony announced that they were going to give away free movies, and it was a brilliant business move. Toshiba/Microsoft lowered the prices of their players, and the BD fans were yelling about subsidies. Sony lowered the price of the PS3, and it was a brilliant business move - even though the PS3 has never sold at nor above cost. There was talk about a low-cost Chinese HD DVD player, and the PS3 fans were saying that they would not be low quality junk, and yet the 2nd post to this article talks about how great it will be once Chinese BD players are released, it will be wonderful for the consumer. When HD DVD announced there would be a 51GB disk, there were shouts from the BD fans that it would not be compatible with existing players, but cheer on 500GB BD disks. When HD DVD has rich interactivity, the BD fans say that nobody watches extras, but when BD introduces 2.1 profile players, it is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

The issue is that all of the advancements that HD DVD made forced BD to do the same. Now that HD DVD is dead, you no longer get 5 free movies (expired Jan 31st). The prices on players have not dropped (Sony said no PS3 price cuts because they spent their money on the war). Amazon used to have BOGO deals, once the deal active the day HD DVD died expired, the sales stopped. When HD was alive, there was a fury of releases from both sides, now that HD is no more, there have been no (IMO) good BD movies released except for what was once exclusive to HD DVD. And really, this has been the first bit of news from the BD group since HD DVD died.]]>Aug 5th 2008 3:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 1:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 5th 2008 2:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/
F......A.......I.......L]]>Aug 6th 2008 10:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/pioneer-finds-20-layer-500gb-blu-ray-disc-feasible/Aug 6th 2008 10:48AM