http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/ Engadget Comments for Your iPhone probably isn't calling home, just might not want you up in its Core Location http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/Aug 8th 2008 9:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/
inf0rm teh fbis!]]>Aug 8th 2008 9:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/Aug 8th 2008 10:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/Aug 8th 2008 10:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/Aug 8th 2008 11:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=disneyland&ie=UTF8&ll=33.812029,-117.918899&spn=0.005803,0.011609&t=h&z=17]]>Aug 8th 2008 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/
No. It disables that app's ability to USE CoreLocation. It doesn't do anything to the app itself. ]]>Aug 8th 2008 1:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/
Reporting at it's worst. The headline on Engadget, MacRumors, etc. made it sound as if this was proven and true. And we wonder why society is in such a state of panic all the time. Get your facts straight or at least be a semi-responsible writer and inform people your audience that this is SPECULATION, and adjust the title accordingly.]]>Aug 8th 2008 9:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/Aug 8th 2008 9:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/
Oh well, they'll always have "Apple stuff is overpriced!" to soothe their bitter souls.
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http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/apple-mac-leopard-windows-vista,review-31192.html]]>Aug 8th 2008 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/
not really surprised in the least.

We though News outlets worrying about ratings was bad... these days of racking-up-the-hits-is-all-that-matters is easily just as bad a situation, or sometimes much worse.]]>Aug 8th 2008 11:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/
"Alex @ Aug 7th 2008 2:35PM

Some of you people are so stupid. This isn't even a confirmed fact yet, instead it is still a rumour.

For all that we know, Apple could use this URL to block certain applications from using the CoreLocation feature, as the "clbl" might indicate on the URL: https://iphone-services.apple.com/clbl/unauthorizedApps. "Clbl" could stand for "CoreLocation Black List", blacklisting applications from using it. "

http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/07/iphone-hacker-says-the-device-calls-home-to-apple-allows-apps/4#comments

I'm so glad that I was right - and so many paranoid internet readers were wrong.]]>Aug 8th 2008 9:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/
I wasn't about to defend Apple on this one, because without more information, I was willing to believe they might try to blacklist apps from running on the phone... but the "OMG teh sky is falling crapple teh sux0rz" from the anti-Apple crowd was even more rabid and uninformed than normal.

The original post on engadget straight up said the guy had NO CLUE what it was for, but that didn't stop people from going apeshit.]]>Aug 8th 2008 10:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/

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Thanks guys, another great round of iPhone stories.]]>Aug 8th 2008 9:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/Aug 8th 2008 9:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/Aug 8th 2008 9:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/
you need a better understanding of what the phrase "call home" means.]]>Aug 8th 2008 11:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/Aug 8th 2008 9:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/
I know I shouldn't feed Trolls but people like you just make me so angry. Just because your little, ugly brain doesn't understand anything beyond "Apple=evil" you spread your ignorant, hurtfull and insulting BS.

Please, go away. ]]>Aug 8th 2008 10:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/
So... they say it is 'dont access Core Location list" for apps.

And since the Core Location is so valuable to Apple they are going to put those hundred apps into the blacklist, run that lenghty check every time app will start or so, and those who will be allowed to access Core Location will not be here. Really interesting.

If the Core Location is so valuable they should disable core access by default and make a white list (ie. only allow these).

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...racist!


]]>Aug 8th 2008 9:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/Be careful!
http://negative99.com/politics/dallas-city-council-is-an-intellectual-black-hole/]]>Aug 8th 2008 9:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/Aug 8th 2008 10:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/Aug 8th 2008 10:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/
Of course the blogosphere went with the other story. Lets see how many of them a) re-report it like Engadget, or b) pretend they never tried to stir up shit yesterday.]]>Aug 8th 2008 9:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/Aug 8th 2008 9:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/Aug 8th 2008 10:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/
I am rather disappointed that Gizmodo, Engadget, and other blogs sensationalized this. Any fear present in iPhone users was a direct result of irresponsible blogs interjecting their unsubstantiated doomsday scenarios.

The biggest hint was that this was found inside the CoreLocation framework. That alone should have quashed any further speculation, at least until something official hit. Instead, we got, "Apple could remotely disable applications." And the crazy fest ensued.

Gizmodo, Engadget, and others have done this in the past with other bits of information that they irresponsibly report on to drive traffic. Others have asked for it, but can you be a little more responsible with the news you receive?
]]>Aug 8th 2008 10:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/
It's awesome.]]>Aug 8th 2008 10:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/Aug 8th 2008 11:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/The mainstream media outlets?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/connected/main.jhtml?xml=/connected/2008/08/08/dlapple108.xml

"Software developers have found a line of code buried in the iPhone's operating system that could enable Apple to remotely delete applications stored on the device that it no longer approves of."

:p
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Well, at least you're kind enough to your readers not to blame them for not being able to understand that the original article didn't say apple was doing anything. I don't know how many more synonyms for maybe the guy could've used.

It wasn't a misinterpretation by JZ. It was a blog titled as to intentionally misread jumped on by a bunch of readers who refused to accept what the article actual said.

Yeah it was much ado about nothing, because that is exactly where you intended to take it.

Can the blogger and the troll be one in the same?]]>Aug 8th 2008 11:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/
@ Joshua

This is not an issue about how news moves, it is an issue with your blatant sensationalism. Engadget did not simply report on the issue, you added in the extra about disabling apps which there was no evidence for. I can think of no other reason why Engadget, or the other sites would do this other than traffic. You could have simply given the details and researched it to get down to the bottom of it. That is not what you did however.

Again, I would have no problem with a simple report on the matter. Explaining what was found, where it was found, etc. That would have been great. Instead it was postulated that they would be disabling applications, despite the face that this was found inside the CoreLocation framework, meaning it would likely having some to do with that. And as Alex stated here, and apparently in the original post comments, the URL even hinted at this being a CoreLocation only function.

I am sure others have said, and I won't be the last, but instead of trying to get the stuff out there as fast as possible spend some time getting it right. If you post accurately and fairly, I think you will keep more readers. This post is essentially a retraction, which you shouldn't have to do. It also proves my point.]]>Aug 8th 2008 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/
"This suggests that the iPhone calls home once in a while to find out what applications it should turn off. At the moment, no apps have been blacklisted, but by all appearances, this has been added to disable applications that the user has already downloaded and paid for, if Apple so chooses to shut them down."

So your assertion that "It wasn't a misinterpretation by JZ," or that we "added in the extra about disabling apps" is 100% wrong.]]>Aug 8th 2008 4:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/
...

The police have two-way radios and guns. They are watching you and plotting to kill you all! Quick, stop supporting those evil people that are keeping you safe!

...

Utter stupidity.]]>Aug 8th 2008 10:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/
Think of TomTom or Garmin, premium applications that could be tempted to avoid leaving the 30% at 1 Infinite Loop. Or Apple might be planning an official one-and-only-one turn-by-turn GPS application.
]]>Aug 8th 2008 10:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/Aug 8th 2008 1:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/Aug 8th 2008 10:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://blog.123greetings.com/2008/08/07/123greetings-20-a-sneak-peak/]]>Aug 8th 2008 10:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/Aug 8th 2008 3:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/Aug 8th 2008 10:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/Aug 8th 2008 11:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/
http://kellylab.berkeley.edu/blog/?p=269
]]>Aug 8th 2008 11:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/So most peeps here are ok with Apple using your paid for bandwidth to verify that an app isn't touching their private spots, then if they don't like it they disable it?
If you really think it stops there your bloody silly... I'd bet this gets used to take your jail broken iPhone and disable your app installer....
really I'm just guessing.... but....]]>Aug 8th 2008 10:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/Aug 8th 2008 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/
If this blacklist is suppose to list applications that are not allowed to access the Core Location and see the man behind the curtain, then, umm, why is it blank?]]>Aug 8th 2008 11:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/08/your-iphone-probably-isnt-calling-home-just-might-not-want-you/Aug 8th 2008 12:33PM