http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/ Engadget Comments for HP introduces new displays and DreamColor calibration kit http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/Aug 11th 2008 3:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/Aug 11th 2008 3:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/Aug 11th 2008 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/Aug 11th 2008 3:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/
But, if the NTSC color gamut IS defined as a certain selection of colors, then it can only display 100%. And then 2% of some other color gamut. So, it's not really 102% of the NTSC color gamut.

The word "gamut" has lost all meaning to me now.]]>Aug 11th 2008 3:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/Aug 11th 2008 4:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/
You're thinking about it wrong.

Every device has it's own gamut. Thus, every device displays 100% of it's own gamut. Every device's gamut is slightly different. Some are very large, like CRT monitors, and even LCD's though we criticize them. Some are very small, like inkjet pritners.

Then there are industry defined standard gamuts, like sRGB, Adobe RGB, NTSC, L*A*B*, and SWOP which exist purely as a go between different devices and their varying gamuts (for varying reasons, SWOP is for offset, L*A*B* is for research, NTSC is for television, Adobe RGB is for design). For example, you don't want to design a file in a device's color space, because when you convert it weird things will happen like loss of detail at the edge of a smaller devices gamut, or not taking advantage of a larger devices gamut.

So you see, this monitor displays it's gamut, and only it's gamut, but it's gamut just so happens to be 102% of the NTSC gamut. I'm not sure how that's calculated, though. It may be lacking in yellows, but make up for it in reds and blues, for example. But then again, maybe it's not.

NTSC is a gamut originally defined for television, and I'm not really sure how it compares to Adobe RGB and other design and print oriented color spaces. You'd think that if HP were really targeting designers here, they'd use a more relevant color space. I do believe NTSC is fairly large, though, and it's quite rare to see a non LED backlit display over 100%. Especially one in this price range.]]>Aug 11th 2008 4:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/Sep 9th 2008 4:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/Aug 11th 2008 6:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/
The NTSC cs is very similar to the Adobe 1998, that is if you're just looking at a table. In practice it's different since we all know what NTSC stands for (never twice the same color).

I have an NEC LCD2690WUXI-SV that displays slightly less than 100% of either gamut and costs $1,400. I wonder if HP is just giving everyone a bunch of BS since the real version in this series is over $3,500. Maybe the the backlighting evenness is not very good. ]]>Aug 11th 2008 8:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/
I imagine at the very least it will be a nice monitor for amateurs and small time freelancers. It wouldn't surprise me, that's exactly what the L2065 is, and it sounds like they're trying to take a step up.]]>Aug 11th 2008 8:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/Aug 11th 2008 3:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/]]>Aug 11th 2008 3:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/Aug 11th 2008 3:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.hp.com/canada/products/landing/workstations/downloads/LP2475w_data_sheet_CDN.pdf]]>Aug 11th 2008 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/Aug 11th 2008 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/
This page backs me up though:
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Not that I'm complaining, I really love the XMB 'waves' one of the prettiest GUI's I've seen in awhile...especially for gaming systems.]]>Aug 11th 2008 4:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/
This is the first time I've seen it used by HP, I stand corrected.]]>Aug 11th 2008 4:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/Aug 11th 2008 3:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/Aug 11th 2008 4:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/
u suk

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http://lcd24-7.info/Monitor/Hewlett-Packard/LP2475w/Default.aspx

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It says s-ips on HP's site.]]>Aug 11th 2008 6:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/
Because no two devices are alike, and no device holds it's calibration.

That is, even two LCD panels that come off the line right next to each other will vary enough to need separate calibrations. Outside of Eizo on their really high end stuff (and maybe some NEC and Barco), I don't know of anyone who factory calibrates each and every device individually. They just load a common calibration that fits the average of their devices.

Second, because over hours to days to months, every device changes. CRT's are well known for dimming over their lives, as do LCD backlights. Even printers and scanners change over a life time. Depending on the quality of the display and the threshold for accuracy, they could need to be calibrated every week, every month, or every few hours. A lot of shops will calibrate their big production laser printers before every run, many more every morning. Design shops can usually get away with calibrating their monitors weekly if it's a good display.]]>Aug 11th 2008 4:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/Aug 11th 2008 5:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/Aug 11th 2008 5:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/
You can easily spend far more, like the Gretag Spectrolino and Profile Maker software, you're looking at $4000+ I think, maybe more.

At Graph Expo last year I spent some time at the Ihara booth, and they were boasting hardware in the $7000+ range. And I think a lot of their stuff is focused at spot colors, but it's been awhile and I might not be remembering correctly.]]>Aug 11th 2008 6:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/Aug 11th 2008 6:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/
If S-IPS were pushed off as a high end consumer panel, they could do just as much damage to it's image (no pun intended) as to *VA.]]>Aug 11th 2008 6:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/
June: http://i34.tinypic.com/2j13e2s.jpg

July: http://i35.tinypic.com/xp351j.jpg

August: http://i34.tinypic.com/2ytsi9c.jpg


check my history for explainiation]]>Aug 11th 2008 7:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/Aug 11th 2008 11:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/
You idiots seem to care more about how a monitor looks when turned off then whant it's turned on and on is what really matters. I'll sell you a monitor that looks pretty when unplugged, but only works in black and white... happy?]]>Aug 12th 2008 5:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/Aug 11th 2008 11:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/Aug 20th 2008 11:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/
You idiots seem to care more about how a monitor looks when turned off then whant it's turned on and on is what really matters. I'll sell you a monitor that looks pretty when unplugged, but only works in black and white... happy?]]>Aug 12th 2008 7:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/
HP DreamColor LP2480zx Professional Display for a whopping $3,299!!

uhm... 24" for $3,299... pass...

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF04a/382087-382087-64283-72270-444767.html ]]>Aug 12th 2008 2:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/Aug 20th 2008 11:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/
[quote]But the incredible thing is that you get all of this for an unbelievably low price of just $649! The LP2475w seems like a definite winner![/quote]

Source: http://www.displayblog.com/2008/08/11/hp-dreamcolor-lp2475w-high-color-gamut-24-lcd-monitor/


HP are saying it's S-IPS and with those specs, it's probably the new WU4 panel.

]]>Aug 13th 2008 8:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/hp-introduces-new-displays-and-dreamcolor-calibration-kit/
[quote]But the incredible thing is that you get all of this for an unbelievably low price of just $649! The LP2475w seems like a definite winner![/quote]

Source: http://www.displayblog.com/2008/08/11/hp-dreamcolor-lp2475w-high-color-gamut-24-lcd-monitor/


HP are saying it's S-IPS and with those specs, it's probably the new WU4 panel.
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