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Anyways, I was wondering if anyone truley baught the "I am rich" Program. I would've, but I'm just to lazy to hit the button. I can afford it ... really, I can ... =(]]>Aug 11th 2008 1:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/
Just like MMS won't be important until its in the keynote for the 3rd Gen iPhone. I get sent videos and pictures all the time...]]>Aug 11th 2008 1:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/Aug 11th 2008 1:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/
And I'm sure Zac mother-fuckin'-badass Morris could've told you phones were taking this direction even with his Motorola brick.]]>Aug 11th 2008 1:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/
but the idea is...EVERYBODY has email
you can send pics through EMAIL
unless you have Hotmail....you three are not invited to the party :-P]]>Aug 11th 2008 2:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/Aug 11th 2008 2:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/"you can send pics through EMAIL"

More people have access to MMS than to email on their phones. Telling me to use email instead of MMS for a picture I just took is stupid. My sister can't check her email till she gets home but I want to send a picture now.

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You have no idea what MMS is, do you? If a phone can send an MMS message, it can send an email.

You fail. Try harder next time.]]>Aug 11th 2008 3:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/
You definitely fail. All modern phones (except iphone) can support MMS, not all phones support email as that requires an email client on the phone. Then you need an email address somewhere to store the bloody picture and you hope that it is reliable (unlike gmail's outage recently). Where as with MMS you have picture, you send MMS, person gets MMS on phone, end of story. no fiddling with email settings, retrievals, or email clients, or spam. ]]>Aug 11th 2008 3:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/
Also, sending/receiving emails requires (in Australia anyway) having a separate data quota/charge to your phone plan, where as MMS messengers are included in the normal phone charges (like SMS messages are)

Mike, you obviously haven't used a "real" phone before, just the toy phone (iphone) you currently making excuses for.]]>Aug 11th 2008 3:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/Aug 11th 2008 5:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/Aug 11th 2008 7:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/
It's almost hilarious that he thinks he's never seen somthing like this before.

Well, if you took all of the various (thousands) freeware/shareware/software sites for WinMobile, combined them together, and made everyone get their softwre from that one source only, you would pretty much get the same thing, but in usual Apple fashion, it's all under their thumb, so when 60 million apps are sold, you can put out a self-fawning press release, and know that all of the tech sites will happily repost it, cause they want to be on the fawning too.]]>Aug 11th 2008 8:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/Alltel = xxxxxxxxxx@message.alltel.com
Amp'd Mobile = xxxxxxxxxx@vtext.com
AT&T = xxxxxxxxxx@mms.att.net
Boost Mobile = xxxxxxxxxx@myboostmobile.com
Centennial Wireless = xxxxxxxxxx@myblue.com
Cingular (AT&T) = xxxxxxxxxx@mms.mycingular.com
Einstein PCS = xxxxxxxxxx@einsteinmms.com
Nextel = xxxxxxxxxx@messaging.nextel.com
Sprint = xxxxxxxxxx@messaging.sprintpcs.com or xxxxxxxxxx@pm.sprint.com
T-Mobile = xxxxxxxxxx@tmomail.net
US Cellular = xxxxxxxxxx@mms.uscc.net
Verizon Wireless = xxxxxxxxxx@vzwpix.com
Virgin Mobile = xxxxxxxxxx@vmobl.com
List stolen from modmyifone.com.]]>Aug 11th 2008 10:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/
But guess what, you CAN do pretty much all that stuff directly through the web on the iPhone. I can post to Blogger, use Gtalk to IM, post to my Wordpress site, browse and post to flickr, play Bejeweled, etc, all right from the "true" internet via the phone's web browser, without using any "apps".]]>Aug 11th 2008 1:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/
You may want to check your "facts" there. I came from a modern phone that did not have MMS, at least not on Sprint's network. The PPC-6800. I guess they had it on AT&T, but not everywhere.

There is more to restrictions like that then just the phone manufacturer.

Regardless, MMS is a borderline worthless service I never used when I had it. It is not reason enough to not buy a superior phone, regardless of which phone that is. I was much happier having my Mogul than I was the phone before that had MMS, because it did so many other things that I actually used.

I can probably speak for your sister when I say, no picture you take on a poor quality camera phone is worth seeing right away on a small low resolution screen.

And no, this isn't me defending the iPhone, this is me sick of hearing about MMS, which I have never seen a use for, and know of no single person in my life who uses it more than once every couple months.

I do have an iPhone though, and the things it DOES do better than my old Mogul, far outweigh it not having MMS. I don't miss my crash-happy Windows Mobile stuff at all. The iPhone isn't perfect though, so I am still hoping, despite a lot of negative stuff I have heard, that the Google Android thing works out.]]>Aug 11th 2008 1:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/iPhone:

http://www.appleiphoneschool.com/2008/08/04/picture-messaging-mms-workaround/

Of course, I'm guessing that >90% of the MMS complainers don't care, they just LOVE bitching about Apple.


]]>Aug 11th 2008 4:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/Aug 11th 2008 4:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/How a year ago when the first iPhone came out, third party apps weren't important or significant at all... after all, why compromise phone security when you can use web apps through Safari!]]>Aug 12th 2008 12:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/
See here - http://o2mms.net

The guy who writes it is also in the process of adding the ability to send MMS too (although it looks like there will be a charge for each message).]]>Aug 15th 2008 4:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/Aug 11th 2008 1:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/
steve is a god
windows is the devil

only apple make good products]]>Aug 11th 2008 1:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/Windows isn't that bad.]]>Aug 11th 2008 1:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/
But you have to admit that without Windows, we'd never be where we are today.

HP laughed at the idea of a computer in every home. If it wasn't for cheap clone devices, expansion of the human race in terms of the digital influence wouldn't be as complex as it is today.

Also, penis.]]>Aug 11th 2008 1:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/Aug 11th 2008 1:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/Aug 11th 2008 2:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/Aug 11th 2008 2:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/
"Windows isn't that bad"

Sounds like a ringing endorsement to me!]]>Aug 11th 2008 3:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/Aug 11th 2008 3:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/
Next time you hop into your car, remember that we would never be where we are today without shoes and start walking!

Things move on people, remember the past but dont live in it!]]>Aug 11th 2008 5:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/Aug 11th 2008 1:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/
I don't understand your comment about the finding applications on the Internet? Are you honestly trying to say that customers prefer to have to search the Internet for applications rather than downloading them from a single source on their phone? Are you quite mad?]]>Aug 11th 2008 2:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/"I don't understand your comment about the finding applications on the Internet? Are you honestly trying to say that customers prefer to have to search the Internet for applications rather than downloading them from a single source on their phone? Are you quite mad?"

I want NetShare. Give me NetShare. I want, I want, I want. Apparently since I wish to install a well written iPhone app, that the app store arbitrarily removed w/o any proper justification, or even explanation, must mean I'm a loon. What we have here is freedom vs. control. Freedom, you can do what you want, but not everything is nicely integrated (maybe). Control, everything is nicely integrated (again, maybe) but you have no freedom and can't necessarily get what you want, even if it's out there. Additionally, everybody that jailbrakes their phone must be stark raving mad, because they primarily put non app store apps on (I don't own an iPhone, so if the app installer lets you use app store apps, forgive my ignorance).]]>Aug 11th 2008 4:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/"Are you honestly trying to say that customers prefer to have to search the Internet for applications rather than downloading them from a single source on their phone?"

Yeah, that would really be insane. I mean common how could anybody ever do this? It's not like we do this in our real lifes with our PCs/MACs...

/sarcasm]]>Aug 11th 2008 4:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/
Did you consider that searching for something on a cell phone is less convenient than searching for it on a full fledged computer? No? Bummer. Is that intelligence filter on?]]>Aug 11th 2008 5:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/
OK, could we search the Internet for applications to install? Sure. As you say, we already do that today for existing applications. Is this the best method for installing applications? No. Just because something is "how we do it today" does not mean that it is good. Clearly a one-stop-shop (no pun intended) is the best solution for customers. I can appreciate developers not being 100% happy with it but for the end-user it makes the most sense. Besides, nothing prevents developers from hosting their own site to advertise and describe their application, just as long as the download link points to the application's page on iTunes. Again, the customer wins.]]>Aug 11th 2008 6:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/
That's not mad at all.

You get variety. You get apps that range from polished and useless to rough and genius.

If site A goes down, then I can go to site B or C or D or E, and so on. No central authority controlles the distrubution of software under the guise of "protecting me from "bad" programs.

And what if I WANT program A, but central software site doesnt want me to, and the only way to put the software on the device is through that ONE method?

Thanks, but no thanks.


]]>Aug 11th 2008 8:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/
But... but... you have the full internet on your phone! How can it be more inconvenient?]]>Aug 11th 2008 8:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/
uh, i'd rather be able to put whatever the hell i want on my phone. the centralized app store may be better for people who can't even spell internet, but i'm perfectly fine with doing a little searching to find a great application to use.]]>Aug 11th 2008 10:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/
Is it revolutionary? Hell no. All the other mobile OSs have had 3rd party apps for ever.

What's revolutionary is the delivery system. That is where Apple has destroyed the competition.

Say what you want about closed systems, but the sheer volume of apps downloaded begs to differ.]]>Aug 11th 2008 4:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/Aug 11th 2008 1:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/Aug 11th 2008 1:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/Aug 11th 2008 2:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/]]>Aug 11th 2008 2:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/Aug 11th 2008 2:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/Aug 11th 2008 3:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/
*Looks at App store*

Bit late for that, eh?]]>Aug 11th 2008 8:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/
So a guy came up with a clever way to make money off of this app, and you fully support the idea of denying him that ability because you are more worried about "a bloated store full of useless crap"?

What is this?!?

Is it the common way of thinking amoung Apple fans that limiting freedom is a good thing? Is having one central agency for software distribution and having that source censor out apps that just aren't considered "chic" enough by some small group of people really a good thing?]]>Aug 11th 2008 8:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/jobs-60-million-iphone-apps-downloaded-confirms-kill-switch/
So when it was found, it highlighted what seemed to be huge flaw in the "Apple as quality control" explanation for its closed-platform model. If iTunes was just one of many ways to install, and you could freely download .ipas directly from anyone, then we wouldn't be having this discussion at all. Apple then gets to reject because rejecting isn't a complete lock-out, and jokesters get to make lame apps without cluttering up the store for others.

(And I'd point to Nokia Download! as a prime example of how it should work...if only they exerted some editorial control in there -- the Weather Channel app they had recently was a horrible, utterly laughable J2ME app that looked like a dumb terminal with an ad-banner over it.)]]>Aug 11th 2008 1:07PM