http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/ Engadget Comments for Celio REDFLY drops to $400, still not useful http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2010 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 13th 2008 2:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 13th 2008 3:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/
Excellent comparison]]>Aug 13th 2008 3:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/
Precisely ]]>Aug 13th 2008 8:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/
It was simply a financial issue for Palm. So comparing the failure of the REDFLY to the cancellation of the Foleo because Celio jacked the price up way to high is, well, wrong.]]>Aug 14th 2008 7:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 13th 2008 2:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 13th 2008 2:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 13th 2008 3:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 13th 2008 5:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 15th 2008 2:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 13th 2008 2:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 13th 2008 2:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 13th 2008 2:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 13th 2008 3:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 13th 2008 9:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/MICROSOFT FOREVERRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]>Aug 13th 2008 2:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 13th 2008 2:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 13th 2008 10:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 14th 2008 1:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 13th 2008 2:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 13th 2008 2:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 13th 2008 2:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 13th 2008 3:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/
General thought: No scales = no way to tell how low or high the supply, demand, or quantity is.]]>Aug 13th 2008 3:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 13th 2008 5:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/
Problem is SOTI pocket controller allows you to do 'almost' exactly the same thing as the redfly with your existing laptop / netbook. I like the redfly, but I can get most of the same functionality with any notebook and when I DO want to edit a full word document syncing the file up to a $400 netbook makes a lot more sense then trying to edit it with pocket word.]]>Aug 13th 2008 2:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 13th 2008 2:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 13th 2008 2:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 13th 2008 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/
And the Touch Pro will just take it much further!]]>Aug 13th 2008 3:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 13th 2008 3:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 13th 2008 3:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 13th 2008 11:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/04/Drag_Curve_2.jpg]]>Aug 13th 2008 3:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 13th 2008 3:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/
Can we please, please, please have at least TWO people read a post before it goes live, Engadget? I like the site, but this lack of proofing is just unprofessional.]]>Aug 13th 2008 3:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 13th 2008 3:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/
I warned them last year that they'd be fighting the low-cost (at the time people were stil saying OLPC class) laptops left and right.

Without an OS I wonder how much it cost to produce? Com'on Celio, lower L-o-w-e-r.]]>Aug 13th 2008 4:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/Aug 13th 2008 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/
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But at its' current price-point, I would still get an eeePC, add a touch screen and then run "MyMobilier" on it.

If the RedFly was "Under $200.00" then I would consider it.]]>Aug 13th 2008 4:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/
And in the end, isn't the purpose of netbooks to be able to surf the web/word processing in more places? This could do all that plus more (I think this would also be lighter than most netbooks, but I'm too lazy to check the specs...)

If only it was cheaper]]>Aug 13th 2008 4:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/
To make a notebook/netbook functional you have to add a PAM plan or a data card and it's plan. These two options will limit your data to 5g a month.

Cost of a PAM plan over 24 months:
Cost of notebook/netbook + $360 ($15 a month for plan x 24)

Cost of data card plan over 24 months:
Cost of notebook/netbook + cost of data card (maybe free) + $1440 ($60 a month for plan x 24)

Cost of Redfly over 24 months:
$400

I like to stay legal, so I will not use PDANet.

All I need to do is access the internet, and manage my PIM data and email. When Live Mesh is fully operational, I can manage files between devices and files. With Redfly, I can do all this using my phone and I would not limited to 5g of data per month.
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Market horse shit right and people will flock to it!]]>Aug 13th 2008 5:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/
To make a notebook/netbook functional you have to add a PAM plan or a data card and it's plan. These two options will limit your data to 5g a month.

Cost of a PAM plan over 24 months:
Cost of notebook/netbook + $360 ($15 a month for plan x 24)

Cost of data card plan over 24 months:
Cost of notebook/netbook + cost of data card (maybe free) + $1440 ($60 a month for plan x 24)

Cost of Redfly over 24 months:
$400

I like to stay legal, so I will not use PDANet.

All I need to do is access the internet, and manage my PIM data and email. When Live Mesh is fully operational, I can manage files between devices and files. With Redfly, I can do all this using my phone and I would not limited to 5g of data per month.
]]>Aug 13th 2008 5:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/celio-redfly-drops-to-400-still-not-useful/This is a problem for Celio is that peope dont get what they get.
Celio should have a marketing campaign maybe even call Palm to do it together.
Redfly is not for everyone and should not be perceived as such device by everyone, this would be an educational part that must be done by Celio.
Redfly is a specific device with productivity in mind and you do have to own a Win Mobile phone to begin with.
However the benefits of such relationship are aplenty. For work that is, for surfing the net... well get yourself a netbook.
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