http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/ Engadget Comments for Criterion Collection uses PS3 as reference Blu-ray player http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/
We're considering buying a Blu-Ray player, but we don't know what to get. The PS3 seems like the best option so far.]]>Aug 13th 2008 5:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 13th 2008 5:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/
Makes it a VERY good Blu Ray player if nothing else.]]>Aug 13th 2008 5:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 13th 2008 6:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 13th 2008 7:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 13th 2008 7:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 13th 2008 8:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 13th 2008 8:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/
anyone buy/use one of these with recommendations?]]>Aug 13th 2008 9:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/
The PS3 is so far the most versatile BD player ever. (Still, I'll stick to my LiteOn SATA BD burner in my computer - the only thing I would be missing would be SACD playback, currently impossible in a computer)]]>Aug 13th 2008 11:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 14th 2008 4:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 14th 2008 5:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 14th 2008 5:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 13th 2008 5:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 14th 2008 3:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Wrong. It can decode Dolby True HD and DTS HD MA but it cannot bitstream them.]]>Aug 13th 2008 5:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 13th 2008 5:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/
This is counter-intuitive for those of us old enough to remember the days before HDMI, when bitstreaming to a receiver was the only way to get >2 channel sound over Optical/Digital Coaxial. But now, with HDMI being capable of carrying multichannel LPCM, and secondary audio tracks (such as commentary) that are mixed in with the main audio track on the fly, you gain nothing from having your receiver do the decoding, and can actually lose something, as HDMI can only bitstream one track at a time -- so if you're going to mix tracks together, you need to do it inside the player.]]>Aug 13th 2008 11:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 13th 2008 5:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 13th 2008 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/
Because, y'know, the best way to watch blood of a poet is on one's iPhone.]]>Aug 13th 2008 5:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 13th 2008 6:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 14th 2008 2:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 14th 2008 3:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 13th 2008 5:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 13th 2008 5:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/
You will not see your Dolby True HD and DTS HD MA lights on your receiver from a PS3.

The PS3 does not bitstream (pass along still compressed) Dolby True HD and DTS HD MA.

It decodes (decompresses) Dolby True HD and DTS HD MA and passes it to your receiver as LPCM (generic/unbranded and uncompressed).]]>Aug 13th 2008 5:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/
The advantage to bitstreaming rather than LPCM is that for people who are audiophiles and want a separate processor to decode the audio with a more expensive D/A converter. ]]>Aug 13th 2008 6:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/
Uh, no. Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD MA is simply the LPCM stream, compressed. Bitstreaming has nothing to do with D/A conversion, since the end result of decoding these formats is still digital.

Think of the LPCM audio track as a file. TrueHD compresses it into .ZIP and DTS-HD MA compresses it into .RAR. What do you get when you decompress them? The same file. It doesn't matter.]]>Aug 13th 2008 7:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/
Just because codec is lossless does not mean it isn't compressed. Codec actually stands for COmpresser/DECompresser.

Wiki: "Dolby TrueHD uses Meridian Lossless Packing (MLP) as its mathematical basis for *compressing* audio samples."

LPCM is digital. The PS3 is not doing D/A conversion. Purely digital decompressing/decoding, so you still use the expensive D/A converters in your receiver.]]>Aug 13th 2008 8:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 14th 2008 5:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/
With digital the bit is on or off, it has nothing to do with signal strength of the ON bit. The Gadget Show here in the UK did a test between a dirt cheap HDMI cable and a "top end" cable and showed that there was no difference in picture quality at all.

It's a big rip off.]]>Aug 13th 2008 5:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/
There's so much error correction going on with HDMI, it wouldn't matter if you dropped a few bits anyway, the human eye would never notice.]]>Aug 14th 2008 3:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 13th 2008 6:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/
For a bit to get so distorted to end up as a 0 when you should've been a 1 would require some SERIOUS resistance, enough so that I doubt the cable would even work.

The age of digital cables really separates those who actually have common sense and those who don't. Maybe with an analog signal you could go on with your graphs and advanced hearing abilities and justify that $1,000 cable... but with something like HDMI or optical, you no longer can.]]>Aug 13th 2008 7:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 13th 2008 8:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/
Anyway I get mine from monoprice.com check it.]]>Aug 13th 2008 9:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 13th 2008 9:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/
Sound and interactivity are a little more complicated of course.]]>Aug 13th 2008 5:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 13th 2008 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 13th 2008 5:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Its fantastic. Plus upscaling is nice :P]]>Aug 13th 2008 5:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 14th 2008 12:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 14th 2008 1:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 14th 2008 1:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 14th 2008 1:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/
But now I see it was just a double-posting accident. Well, take it easy on your ears, anyway.]]>Aug 14th 2008 3:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 14th 2008 4:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/Aug 14th 2008 5:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/13/criterion-collection-uses-ps3-as-reference-blu-ray-player/
Again digital means its going to be exactly the same with any cable but if some idiot wants to spend £40 on a gold plated, oxygen free HDMI cable then thats there problem.]]>Aug 13th 2008 6:42PM