http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/ Engadget Comments for RED brings the trademark pain against LG's Scarlet HDTV http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/]]>Aug 18th 2008 2:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 2:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/
And it's not 3000 colors, guys, it's 3K HD, as in 3072x1728 image size.

The more you know... [tm]]]>Aug 18th 2008 2:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/
"Scarlet" camera - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Digital_Cinema_Camera_Company#Scarlet
HD Formats - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Digital_Cinema_Camera_Company#Recording_formats
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Some product has the exact same name. If I ever met someone that had the same name as me I better sue them because it's fraud.

Wait, that's not how corporatism works?]]>Aug 18th 2008 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 6:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/
It seemed from the first few comments on here that everyone was initially in shock and awe because they thought RED was suing over a red-like color. It's not, it's suing for trademark infringement because an HD display is using the same name as RED's HD camcorder.

Honestly though, I'd be interested in seeing PRODUCT (RED) suing RED for trademark infringement. ]]>Aug 18th 2008 4:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/ $3,000??? get your facts straight man. You might want to add another zero to that figure are you would get close to what a RED actually costs when the dust clears]]>Aug 18th 2008 9:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/
Also, consumers can distinguish between a red camera and a red HDTV.

And I wonder why they call the camera red, because it is colored black....]]>Aug 18th 2008 2:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 4:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 2:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 2:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 2:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 2:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 7:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 2:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 2:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 2:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 3:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 2:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 2:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 2:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/
It's easy to get these things mixed up.]]>Aug 18th 2008 2:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 2:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 2:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/
First of all, what were you trying to say?

Secondly, the RED One is more than a decent 4K digi-cinema acquisition device. To suggest otherwise it just dumb. Even if you're trying to be funny, you're not. Just. Dumb.]]>Aug 18th 2008 3:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/
Apple Computers -vs- Apple Records.. ???


But that wasnt so much a word, but the use of the apple logo I believe..]]>Aug 18th 2008 11:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 2:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 2:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 2:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 2:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 2:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 2:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 2:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 2:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/
IANAL, but as I understand it, standard terms can be (and often are) trademarked within a specific context in which it is not already generally used, e.g., 'apple' in reference to computers, 'scarlet' for a line of TVs, or 'vista' for an operating system. If the term is already generally used in that context you probably won't be able to trademark it, or at least you'll have a hell of a time protecting your trademark. E.g., trying to trademark 'toilet paper' for a brand of toilet paper, trying to trademark 'laptop' for a portable computer, or trying to trademark 'blue-ray' for blue-ray optical discs. This is why Adobe, even though it has obvious promotional value, publicly disapproves of any use of the term 'photoshop' as a verb—they don't want to go the way of band-aid, aspirin, escalator, crock pot, etc.]]>Aug 18th 2008 3:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/
That's only if the "common term" you are using is a common descriptor of the product you are selling. There is nothing about the term "Red" or "Scarlett" that would lead you to believe it is referring to a camera or TV. These are considered "arbitrary" marks which are highly protectable, because it is unlikely that the term in question would be used generically or merely descriptively in reference to that product. As already pointed out, "Apple" for a computer was similarly protectable, because an Apple is a piece of fruit, not a piece of hardware.]]>Aug 18th 2008 4:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 2:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 2:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 3:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 3:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 5:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/
But anyone could grab a CMOS sensor from a DSLR and make a crummy camera from it.

That's right. I said crummy.

http://ieba.wordpress.com/2007/11/01/red-rolling-shutter-redux/
http://www.redhax.net/wiki/Understanding_Rolling_Shutter_Artifacts

Great marketing Jim, but you need to catch up on the tech. When you shoot 3000 frames in a film, having it work in 99% of all situations still means you got 30 wrong.]]>Aug 18th 2008 7:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 5:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Please remove the Blue boxing gloves from your website. I've just purchased the rights to the colour blue.]]>Aug 18th 2008 3:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Please remove the letter "u" from the word "colour." It's scarring my American eyes.]]>Aug 18th 2008 3:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 5:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/
This trademark dispute is perfectly logical from the standpoint of RED. They are trying to prevent any form of confusion that their high end cameras are in any way linked to the HDTV series made by LG. the name in dispute is "Scarlet" not RED, Red, or the color red. I think it is safe to assume that RED is fully aware that nobody would mistake a HDTV for a diminuitive sized camera, the problem is that people might think that the LG television is either A. equally as high end as RED's products, then upon buying it discovering that it is not thus hurting the image of RED. or B. thinking that RED has in some way liscenced their brand to LG in which they have a made a television that is designed to be used with the RED camera series.

This is in no way similar to the T-Mobile rediculousness about the color magenta, which was absolutely moronic. RED and LG are considered to be in the same "class of goods" which is why RED has every right to dispute the product name as their own trademark. now the real question is who trademarked the name "Scarlet" first? RED certainly released their product first but the law is the law. Someone is gonna have to change thier name. ]]>Aug 18th 2008 3:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/red-brings-the-trademark-pain-against-lgs-scarlet-hdtv/Aug 18th 2008 3:49PM