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@Warren -- I would like some market release dates as well. This is going to be very useful transferring HD media content .... but I'm keeping a look out for eSata and Firewire camps as well ... not too trusting of Intel.]]>Aug 18th 2008 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/Aug 18th 2008 4:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/
The MacBook Air]]>Aug 18th 2008 5:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/Aug 18th 2008 5:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/Aug 18th 2008 6:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/
I'll bet anyone that Firewire 3200Mbps ends up being faster for large sustained transfers!]]>Aug 19th 2008 2:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://digg.com/hardware/USB_4_0_Expected_Max_Speed]]>Aug 19th 2008 8:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/Aug 19th 2008 4:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/Aug 18th 2008 3:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/
Asus IS heart touching.]]>Aug 18th 2008 5:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/Aug 18th 2008 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/Aug 18th 2008 3:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/ 3.2 Gigabit Firewire 1394b (good luck finding one with that, anyhow) > 800 megabits firewire > 400 megabits firewire

Keep in mind that firewire is considered generally faster than USB 2.0 because of overhead and the faster chipsets associated with it. ]]>Aug 18th 2008 3:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/Aug 18th 2008 4:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/Aug 18th 2008 4:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/Aug 18th 2008 5:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/ "Also keep in mind that Firewire=FAIL because no body supports its ass!"

Except for all those external hard drives that are USB/Firewire, and all those digital camcorders... just because YOU haven't used Firewire doesn't mean nobody has.

Firewire has always been faster than USB 2.0. I've been using Firewire for my external hard drives and digital video for 5 years, and it's been good to me.

Now I'm just getting into eSATA. So why should I switch to USB 3.0 in a few years?]]>Aug 18th 2008 7:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/ "Also keep in mind that Firewire=FAIL because no body supports its ass!"

Except for all those external hard drives that are USB/Firewire, and all those digital camcorders... just because YOU haven't used Firewire doesn't mean nobody has.

Firewire has always been faster than USB 2.0. I've been using Firewire for my external hard drives and digital video for 5 years, and it's been good to me.

Now I'm just getting into eSATA. So why should I switch to USB 3.0 in a few years?]]>Aug 18th 2008 7:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/
And why on earth don't we have a protocol that scales up yet? We can only go so fast as /they/ say we can? What's up with that?
A person should be able to get a physically compatible connector, and have a data rate that depends on power consumption allowance, cable length, ambient spectrum noise, and be determined on-the-fly by the controllers. Is it just about the overhead? ..because with a wired connection, cable length isn't a dynamic thing, it just needs to be able to work with what it's got when the connection is established... If it's not good enough universally, it won't be used universally, and if it's not used universally, it's simply not universal.

Is backwards compatibility limiting our ability to be forward thinking?]]>Aug 18th 2008 7:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/
Nobody supports FW ?

How about 80-90% of all laptops/PC/camcoder/macs/external harddrives today that has the "IEEE 1394a/b/c" port. ?

]]>Aug 18th 2008 10:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/Aug 18th 2008 3:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/Aug 18th 2008 3:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/Aug 18th 2008 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/
third line of engadgets 6 line summary. why even read a blog and comment if you dont even read the 5 second summary?]]>Aug 18th 2008 4:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/
..or /do/ you?]]>Aug 18th 2008 7:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/
(you can type it into your google toolbar on Firefox and verify!)]]>Aug 18th 2008 3:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/
Meaning that 3.0 will be 480x10 = 4.8 Gbps.

Does nobody on this site have reading comprehension?]]>Aug 18th 2008 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/
ten times more than USB 2.0's 480Mbps limit (that's 4.8Gbps)

10x480Mbps=4800Mbps or 4.8Gbps]]>Aug 18th 2008 3:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/Aug 18th 2008 3:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/Aug 18th 2008 3:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/
Again reading is fundamental...]]>Aug 18th 2008 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/




Reading comprehension FTW!]]>Aug 18th 2008 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/Aug 18th 2008 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/Aug 18th 2008 3:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/
Unless you buy into hard drive manufacturer's bullshit or you think 'kibibit', 'mebibit' and 'gibibit' sounds good that is!]]>Aug 18th 2008 4:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/
i guess around here, when it rains, it pours]]>Aug 18th 2008 4:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/Aug 18th 2008 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/
So like, I'm learning to read here...]]>Aug 18th 2008 6:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/
isn't 1024Kbps = 1 Mbps and 1024Mbps = 1Gbps?

So 4.8Mbps in Gbps is 0.46875, multiply by 10 = 4.6875 Gbps, so he's right in terms of the conversion.]]>Aug 18th 2008 10:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/
remember 1024kbps = 1mbps, and 1024mbps = 1gbps, since they work on a 2^10 system...

so 480mbps = 0.46875gbps and therefore ten times 0.46875 is in deed 4.6875gbps.
]]>Aug 18th 2008 11:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/
"isn't 1024Kbps = 1 Mbps and 1024Mbps = 1Gbps?"
"So 4.8Mbps in Gbps is 0.46875, multiply by 10 = 4.6875 Gbps..."

The whole 1024 vs 1000 thing was only ever for storage, not for comms. The only reason they used 1024 bits per kilobit was because when manufacturing ROM chips they worked in powers of two (i.e. 2^addressbits). For comms, they always used base 10 prefixes (i.e. 1000 bits per kilobit), since there was no physical reason to change the definition. I.e. your old 56kbps dialup modem was 56000bps, your 1.5Mbps ADSL is 1500kbps = 1500000bps.

Now that I have the lesson out of the way (I just finished teaching a lab at uni :-p ), you can see that USB 3 has a transfer speed of 4.8Gbps = 4800Mbps = 4800000kbps = 4800000000bps.

class dismissed.]]>Aug 19th 2008 5:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/"and it will be much more mindful of energy waste."

so no USB kettle then?
]]>Aug 18th 2008 3:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/If you can power a kettle with .9A at 5V, be my guest. (i think that's what it is anyway)]]>Aug 18th 2008 7:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/Aug 19th 2008 9:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/Aug 20th 2008 12:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/usb-3-0-gets-seriously-detailed/
I love being a geek.]]>Aug 18th 2008 3:46PM