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They would be like, "can you ride it on a mountain bike trail?"

I would reply, "HELL NO! Why would I ever want to do anything or own anything that isn't this glorious piece of equipment."

I would hate to be a(n) mp3 player, calculator, toaster, airplane, computer, toothpaste, etc. manufacturer, knowing that my (insert any above device, preferably toothpaste) can't hold a candle to the beloved iPhone.

Long live January 8th, 2007!!!!]]>Aug 22nd 2008 8:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/
All that, for cheaper the the iPhone, and it's not much bigger, actually about the same size as the iPhone:

http://archoslounge.net/local/cache-vignettes/L500xH400/jpg_IMG_0202_light-384b7.jpg

http://mp3.generationmp3.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/4/files/00_2008/aout/archos_gen6/IMG_5746.JPG]]>Aug 22nd 2008 9:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 23rd 2008 1:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 30th 2008 1:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 22nd 2008 7:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 23rd 2008 7:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 22nd 2008 7:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 22nd 2008 7:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 22nd 2008 8:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/I don't see companies like nokia nickle and dime'ing customers for wanting to browse the web on something with built-in wi-fi. This is ridiculous.]]>Aug 22nd 2008 8:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 22nd 2008 8:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 22nd 2008 8:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/And im sure they have to pay royalties with those addons too...]]>Aug 22nd 2008 9:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://flac.sourceforge.net
http://www.vorbis.com
]]>Aug 22nd 2008 9:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 22nd 2008 10:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/
I think their excuse for FLAC and Vorbis is that it isn't supported by the hardware like the other formats are, they would have to run mplayer to do this which would open it up for possible exploits. Which they still should do. Anybody speak French?]]>Aug 22nd 2008 10:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/The web browser, flash 9, web TV, and web Radio comes free with this generation
there are plenty of popular codecs that work out of the box (more than iPod/Zune)
and the ones that they charge for are licensed codecs that they would have to pay to use, including HD formats]]>Aug 22nd 2008 10:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 24th 2008 7:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 22nd 2008 7:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 22nd 2008 7:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 22nd 2008 8:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 22nd 2008 8:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 22nd 2008 10:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 22nd 2008 10:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 22nd 2008 8:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/
- Full codecs support at full DVD resolution and up to HD 720p resolution,

- Faster better webbrowser with full screen Flash video support,

- 10x perhaps 20x more storage on Archos 5 depending on small the MiniSD cards are in your N810,

- Full codecs streaming from the Internet and on your local network,

- Video recording with EPG,

- DVB-T freeview tuner dock,

- USB-host for transfering pictures from digital camera, for emptying SD cards on your Archos hard drive storage, for connecting external hard drives.

Only temporary advantages of N810:

- Pretty bad thumb keyboard (Archos 5G could support full sized foldable USB keyboards on its USB-host)

- Pretty bad software (Archos 5G could use Google Android as the OS on a firmware upgrade, just a guess.. just as you can in theory install Google Android on a hacked Nokia N810)

- Pretty bad bluetooth mobile phone modem strategy, you need an expensive HSDPA mobile phone with weak battery life to function as your N810 HSDPA modem. Much slower and much less usable then Archos 5G built-in HSDPA.]]>Aug 22nd 2008 10:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 22nd 2008 10:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/
-He makes a comprehensive list detailing how one device is better than another, when they really serve two separate markets.

-Many of the things he lists can be performed on both devices.

-His name is Charbax]]>Aug 23rd 2008 1:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 22nd 2008 8:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 22nd 2008 8:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 22nd 2008 9:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/
Whens the last time they changed the design of the iPod...

Oh wait, NEVER.]]>Aug 22nd 2008 9:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 22nd 2008 8:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 24th 2008 7:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 22nd 2008 8:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 22nd 2008 8:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/
The plugins are NOT necessary for using the player. Just be smart and figure out what plugins you need to use it and factor it into the price.

Again, what sets these apart is the screen size. GREAT for movie-watching on the go.]]>Aug 22nd 2008 8:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 22nd 2008 9:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 22nd 2008 9:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/
Though notice it does built-in HSDPA on the Archos 5G model, and it's external HSDPA modems (using Dock or/and USB dongles plugged under it) in the Archos 5 and Archos 7 models without the "G" in their name.

The Archos 5G will be sold mostly by carriers, for now only SFR for the french market has been announce, but their announcement is still to come in the coming weeks for price and availabillity. That package deal could include a cheap Archos 5G with or without the DVR Station for a cheap price for example perhaps $199 upfront if you sign a 2-year HSDPA data subscription. Which could be a second SIM card so you can also use any other cheap phone separately on the same customer account with the carrier.]]>Aug 22nd 2008 10:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 22nd 2008 9:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 23rd 2008 3:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/
Honestly, I like the N810, but I think this beats it in my opinion.

Now just got to find $500. lol.]]>Aug 22nd 2008 10:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Aug 22nd 2008 10:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/
For the same money (or less), you can get a new Netbook (Asus Eee 901, Acer Aspire One, HP 2133, Lenovo S10, Dell Inspiron 910, etc.) that runs a full operating system (Linux or Windows XP), can do all of the photo/music/video stuff that the Archos devices can do, and much, much more (MS Office, OpenOffice, client email, and on and on).

I purchased an Archos 704 WiFi around a year ago and the Opera Web browser on the device has never been updated by Archos, despite repeated pleas (no, I wasn't holding my breath). It can't display Google Maps (or any map web site worth its salt) and crashes or cannot display very popular, standard web sites. Archos refuses to update their browser, instead bringing out new machines to fleece the gullible. The 704 WiFi is dog-slow (that means it's sloooowwww) when doing anything other than viewing a movie,displaying photos, or listening to music - all of which a Netbook can do. You can't even view plain text files on it. Viewing a PDF document takes roughly 30 seconds to render each PDF page - horrible.

I like the form factor of the 704 (7" screen and touch screen), but it is gutless (slow), and lacking in so many features that Netbooks have. And Archos has horrible software enhancement support - they have written off all prior versions of their hardware, in favor of suckering in new buyers of their new hardware. (Yes, I was one of them.)

Don't drink the Koolaid - stay away from Archos.
]]>Aug 22nd 2008 11:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/Sigh. At least this is still not a bloody iPod.]]>Aug 22nd 2008 11:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/
- Video recording with EPG,

* "The EPG for the Archos is a joke and you know it. It hardly works correctly and the sad part is you've got to pay for it after a year.

- DVB-T freeview tuner dock,

* "A lot of good that does us outside of Europe."

- USB-host for transfering pictures from digital camera, for emptying SD cards on your Archos hard drive storage, for connecting external hard drives.

* "With the size of SD memory cards in digital camera's these days up to 32GB's. If you've got to transfer 32 GB's worth of photos from your digital camera to your Archos to clear out space, then you really need to ask yourself why, especially if it's a hell of lot easier to replace your digital camera card with another inexpensive SD backup rather than the hassle of transferring it to your Archos.

* The Nokia can also connect an external hard drive. You need to look at the N810 forum

* The Archos is a media machine; it's not productive on a professional level like the Nokia. It may have a faster processor temporarily, but when the next gen Nokia N900 comes out, everything you mentioned as a plus, won't really be a plus. "

Only temporary advantages of N810:

- Pretty bad thumb keyboard (Archos 5G could support full sized foldable USB keyboards on its USB-host)

* N810 supports full size foldable bluetooth keyboards plus there's nothing wrong with the built in virtual Keyboard and if you spend time with the actual built in keyboard, you can type pretty fast. I can do 30wmp on it. The 605wifi's virtual keyboard is pretty bad. Hope the Archos 5 and 7 are improved.

- Pretty bad software (Archos 5G could use Google Android as the OS on a firmware upgrade, just a guess.. just as you can in theory install Google Android on a hacked Nokia N810)

* "All software is open source on the N810 out of the box. There's a large community out there working on programs for the Nokia which are all free. Can you say the same for the archos. and I doubt too many people are going to replace Archos's operating system with android and if Archos did offer you added on anything, they'll probably charge you. That's the archos way. There's even Nintendo game emulators for the Nokia.

Question?
*
Can you do word processing on the Archos - Abiword can for the Nokia
Do you have access to contacts/todo list/ calender - GPE installed on Nokia ( you've got to be online for google docs to work)
Can you play games like Id's quake on the Archos - Nokia can port linux games, emulator games, etc.
Can you control your cable box and DVR from your Archos - Nokia can using Hava player software and hardware which by the way is a huge improvement over the EPG when used with a DVR cable box.
Can you take Archos's GPS out of the car and walk around with it - No
Do you have map access to more countries than Europe and North American on the Archos - No
Can the Archos use Skype? No
Is the battery removable on the Archos 5 or 7? No
Can you leave your archos on standby for 10 days or 20 days with the added 3600 battery which can run for 14 hours? No
Can you run thousands of Palm applications on the Nokia? You can on the Nokia with the Garnet Emulator.

I owned the 605wifi 80GB plus Dock and it was more hassle that it was worth, plus it crashed a lot. It played movies well, had a nice screen, but that's about it. The audio sucked coming out of it for music, the remote rarely changed the cable box's channel to record anything from the dock, and customer service was abysmal. When the N900 comes out, then that would be a good matchup for comparison. Until then, all you've got is a new chip in a fancy new box, but it's the same old Archos.]]>Aug 22nd 2008 11:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/archos-5-7-internet-media-tablets-now-on-sale/
If you are the type that use calendars and wanabee word processing software on a pocket device, then Nokia is for you.

But if you want built-in HSDPA in your pocket device, if you want FULL codecs, FULL resolutions, native streaming Internet multimedia standards supported. If you want a device that supports your video and audio collection. A device that can replace your Tivo and your Slingbox, that can replace your Blu-ray player and your mediastreamer, that can replace your iPod Touch and exceeds the media abillities of any PDA or Nokia tablet ever released, the Archos 5G is the only device to do what it does.

The type of apps that are going to be worth having are going to be on Google Android OS, no matter how you spin things on Nokia's Linux Mobile implementations. Google Android is by definition going to be the standard for embedded Linux, and all the useful social networking applications, localization applications, instant messaging applications, pocket Google apps applications, all those are going to be on Google Android and not on Nokia's maemo, no matter how large you say the Maemo community is. Nokia does not support its community by not releasing hardware that has built in HDSPA, not releasing any device that supports the Internet standard for DVD quality video which is full DivX support, that does not support the Internet standard for embedded video streaming which is Flash video (Nokia does not play it smoothly in full screen). Nokia does not provide storage in their products (for fear of carriers being angry at users using too much bandwidth to download a lot of stuff). I hope that Nokia will do something good with the N900, but I don't think Nokia wants to do those things, and I think you won't be seing Nokia using Google Android OS on their devices just yet just by them prefering to sticking to their principles.]]>Aug 24th 2008 5:14AM