http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/ Engadget Comments for New 80GB PS3 provides minimal power savings, might have 65nm RSX GPU http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 23rd 2008 10:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 23rd 2008 11:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/
Anyways, with the possible upcoming price cut on the BDP-S350, my previous plans to pick up a PS3 are coming to an end. I picked up a BDP-S301 from Costco the other day, but it's slow as a snail to load, or simply eject a disk and it has the latest firmware update. Rumor is the S350 loads faster, but another plus is the way it handles audio. The S300/301 versions aren't that good.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1050507]]>Aug 24th 2008 12:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 24th 2008 4:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/
Clearly you can't count....]]>Aug 24th 2008 5:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/
The PS3 111w is during idle only. The 360 power supply is 175w MAX, I'de wager that 360 at idle uses less than the PS3 at idle.]]>Aug 24th 2008 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/After a little searching, I found that the 360 only uses 101w while playing Gears of War. So even during intense gameplay the 360 uses less power than the PS3 does at idle.

And 1 more vote for engadget having THE WORST comment system on the ENTIRE Internet.]]>Aug 24th 2008 12:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/
Both have been dropping in power usage, at equivalent technologies (90nm vs 90nm, 65nm vs 65nm, 45nm vs 45nm) the 360 seems to use a little less power. But at equivalent technologies the 360 most definitely does NOT uses less power playing games than the PS3 does at idle. Also note the PS3 generally moves to the new technology slightly earlier (maybe a few months).

To put it plainly, both are massive power hogs.]]>Aug 24th 2008 7:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/
I know I was referring to the new 60GB 360's power usage.. it was a fair comparison since both the article and Mik were referring to the new PS3. But even when comparing older revisions, the 360 has never used as much power as the PS3 (version-for-version).

Here are the numbers I have dug up:
Idle: (Note it was hard to find any 360 idle measurements during my search)
PS3 80GB Core 112w
PS3 80GB MSG4 180w
PS3 40GB 126w

DVD playback:
360 60GB 81w
360 20GB 111w
PS3 80GB Core 126w
PS3 80GB MSG4 197w
PS3 40GB 148w
PS3 20GB 186w

Gaming:
360 60GB 101W (Gears of War)
360 20GB 160W (Gears of War)
PS3 80GB Core 130w (MGS4)
PS3 80GB MSG4 200w (MGS4)
PS3 40GB 155w (MGS4)
PS3 20GB 212w (Resistance)

So if the 101w figure for the 60GB 360 during game play is correct, then the latest 360 does use less than the latest PS3 at idle. I don't have a kill-a-watt, or a 60GB 360, so I can't test this myself. One thing is clear, that the PS3's with backwards compatibility use significantly more power than their gimped siblings.


But I agree, the continued shrinkages will definitely be welcome.]]>Aug 25th 2008 2:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 26th 2008 1:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 23rd 2008 11:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 23rd 2008 11:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 24th 2008 12:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/
If not, then the electrical system in your home/apartment sucks.]]>Aug 24th 2008 12:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 24th 2008 12:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/
Most A/C units are on a Dedicated Circuit/Circuit Breaker and no other appliance or electrical item is allowed to or able to run off that circuit or breaker. ]]>Aug 24th 2008 3:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 24th 2008 3:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 24th 2008 8:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/
if you're trying to suck down more than 10 amps from a single socket then you will blow something.
using a power strip doesn't change that, it's still connected to a single socket.]]>Aug 24th 2008 9:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/
I have:
Quadcore 3.46GHz/GF 8800GTX SLI PC, 3HDDs
3GHz P4/GF 6800 PC 2 HDDs
PS3 (launch-day version)
360 (launch-day version)
Wii (launch-day version)
17" WS LCD + 19" LCD + 24" WS LCD
175W PC surround receiver
105W console surround receiver
Color laser printer
+ Assorted other peripheral junk, router, cordless phone and whatnot

All connected to high-quality power strips leading back to 1 single 230V wall socket. Oh, and there's a 900W microwave oven connected to the other plug-hole in that socket. :P

All that s*** can run all at once, no fuses blowing or nuttin. Room gets pretty hot though with that much stuff going, so I generally have most switched off. Problem with living in Euroland; AC is not standard equipment...]]>Aug 24th 2008 6:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/
The raw numbers are good to have, though. In all honesty, was he really expecting more significant drops in power consumption?

]]>Aug 23rd 2008 11:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 23rd 2008 11:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/considering that this is a fairly popular product, I'd argue that he'd have that data soon enough from an owner of the device who actually wants to keep it. Just comes across as wasteful and a tad selfish to me to be buying up a new product and returning it soon after for criteria that isn't exactly reasonable (IMO) for data that is easy enough to come by if he waited a bit.]]>Aug 23rd 2008 11:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/
Wow, why would you buy a perfectly fine console, just to figure out how much energy it saves? That is just plain wrong.

You know, there are 17 year old kids who make money off of ONLY allowance, who try to save their allowance for a PS3 AFTER their Xbox 360 just got stolen!!!

And they can't get a job because they are too damn lazy to get their grades up so their mother will give them a driver's license!!!

What, don't look at me...]]>Aug 23rd 2008 11:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 23rd 2008 11:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/
Maybe you should check it out. Cause I have it.]]>Aug 23rd 2008 11:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/
You said yourself you're too lazy to get your grades up. That's YOUR fault. Stop being lazy.]]>Aug 23rd 2008 11:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/
People with my disability tend to get worse grades than others, thus, it is not very easy for me to maintain the B average that my mother requires of me to get a license.

What the hell is wrong with you guys? Is it really so fun to make fun of people who are less able to do some things than others?

And for the record, about a week ago, I put my foot down and told my mom that I am going to college, and I am going to try my hardest this year to get at least a 3.5 GPA so that I at least have a chance.]]>Aug 23rd 2008 11:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/
But good luck. Try. That's all asked of you.]]>Aug 24th 2008 12:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 24th 2008 12:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 24th 2008 12:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 24th 2008 1:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/
Kind of off topic, but your username, sir, is amazing. That was such a great book...
But on topic of the PS3, I have one of the original 60GB from the first month, and use it A LOT. Sure, it gets loud once in a while, but the circuit thing? Psh, I have the HDTV, surround sound system, cable box, PS3 + lamps of all sort. Ever had a power failure? Nope.]]>Aug 24th 2008 1:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 24th 2008 4:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 24th 2008 6:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/
Why don't you guys just all go fuck yourselves cause I have had enough!!! Do you guys have any idea how hurtful you guys are being? I FUCKING HAVE ASPERGER'S!!! I AM NOT LYING!!! So what if I don't get good grades when others do? I AM DIFFERENT THAN EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE WORLD!!! JUST LIKE YOU GUYS!!! WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT, NO MATTER WHAT YOU GUYS THINK!!! EVERYBODY WITH ASPERGER'S HAS DIFFERENT NEEDS AND SKILLS!!!

Thank you, guys, for being complete assholes and making me go into a frenzy. I DONT NEED THIS SHIT WHEN MY SENIOR YEAR STARTS TOMORROW!!! I SAID I AM TRYING TO MAKE A CHANGE FOR MYSELF AND YOU ACT LIKE I DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE WORLD WHEN I REALLY DO!!! I HAVE A PURPOSE HERE JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE!!! AND EVEN IF YOU DISAGREE AND LOW RANK ME, I AM STILL GOING TO PRESERVER!!! I WILL MAKE IT IN THE WORLD!]]>Aug 24th 2008 10:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/
And based on that little outburst, I'd say you're either a really good troll, or you DO have Asperger's Syndrome.

According to Wikipedia: "Individuals with AS experience difficulties in basic elements of social interaction".

Seems to fit the bill here.]]>Aug 25th 2008 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 23rd 2008 11:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 23rd 2008 11:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 24th 2008 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 25th 2008 12:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/
I was hoping the 160gb model would be like the previous 80gb model, with 4 USB ports, memory card readers and PS2 BC but nope.]]>Aug 23rd 2008 11:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 24th 2008 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 23rd 2008 11:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 24th 2008 12:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 24th 2008 12:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 23rd 2008 11:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 24th 2008 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 23rd 2008 11:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/new-80gb-playstation-3-provides-minimal-power-savings-might-hav/Aug 24th 2008 12:43AM