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Little kids are stupid?

No kidding.]]>Aug 28th 2008 8:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/Aug 28th 2008 8:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/
its just like the thing with those 1000000:1 Contrast tvs last year, definately works but only truely viewable person]]>Aug 28th 2008 9:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/Aug 28th 2008 11:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/Aug 28th 2008 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/
Umm... that's all in your head there, kid. Since the movie was *shot* at 24fps and telecined at 24 or 30fps, screening it at 120hz, 200hz or 50,000hz is not going to increase the frame rate, only the refresh rate. You do realize that when you go to the movies, the shutter on the projector is at 72hz, right? If anything, increasing the refresh rate on the screen will get you *closer* to the original "film blur" you love, not further from it.

If you're still experiencing difficulty enjoying fast refresh rates, please visit an optometrist. (Or maybe a psychiatrist? I dunno...)]]>Aug 29th 2008 2:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/Thank you but I am quite familiar with refresh vs frame rate. I am not talking about simply repeating frames to increase the refresh rate. I am talking about the video processing these TVs do to interpolate and remove blur by creating 120 individual frames where there were none in the source. The TV itself is increasing the frame rate to match the refresh. Please stop by your nearest Best Buy to witness what it looks like. They always have some blu-ray movie being processed in this way. It resembles high speed shutter video footage (think sporting event) and looks terrible.]]>Sep 16th 2008 2:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/
Though as with sound, only by going at least twice above human limit all the disturbing little glitched introduced by electronic image/sound reproduction are not detected by perception.

It would be interesting whether I would be able to the difference.]]>Aug 28th 2008 8:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/
Is this dangerous?]]>Aug 28th 2008 10:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.100fps.com/how_many_frames_can_humans_see.htm]]>Aug 29th 2008 2:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/Aug 28th 2008 8:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/Aug 28th 2008 9:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/Aug 28th 2008 8:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/Aug 28th 2008 8:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/Aug 28th 2008 8:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/Aug 28th 2008 12:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/Aug 28th 2008 8:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/Aug 28th 2008 8:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/Aug 28th 2008 8:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/
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I really want to buy a 52 inch but each time I'm ready to buy, word of something else comes out. LED, higher refresh, better contrast, thinner. . . I was ready to buy the Samsung 71 but the 650 came out. Now the 850 is out and Sony comes up with this. I feel sorry for people who don't follow tech and just wander into the store asking for sales help.]]>Aug 28th 2008 9:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/Aug 28th 2008 2:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/Samsung HDTV's FTW....]]>Aug 28th 2008 10:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/Sep 14th 2008 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/Aug 28th 2008 10:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/Aug 28th 2008 10:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/
Thanks,
Scott
http://www.topclassactions.com
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- Receive & Store frame t=2.0, Display frame t=1.0
- Interpolate and Display frame t=1.3333
- Interpolate and Display frame t=1.6666
- Receive & Store frame t=3.0, Display frame t=2.0
- Interpolate and Display frame t=2.3333
- Interpolate and Display frame t=2.6666
- Receive & Store frame t=4.0, Display frame t=3.0
and so on. See how the frame that is displayed lags behind the frame sent by the game console!]]>Aug 28th 2008 11:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/Aug 29th 2008 10:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/
But the thing about these artificial high rate refresh modes is they all have to muck up the picture some to produce the in between frames. Some techniques may be "better" than others, but they all suffer from one significant problem, and that is whenever there is a cut or other large change in the video signal, there isn't enough information for at least a few frames of video to produce the in-between frames, so what you get is stutter stutter stutter, smooth motion for a few seconds, scene change, stutter stutter stutter, smooth motion. There's only 50 or 60 frames of video per second; so-called "intelligent" algorithms have to be used to create the in-between stuff, and those algorithms really aren't very good. I personally find it VERY distracting and it gives me a headache.

The best use for the high frame rate panels is their ability to produce 24p video without judder, so watching films on Blu-ray/HD-DVD/a properly equipped DVD player look much more film-like, especially whenever a camera moves in some way... a pan, tilt, dolly, truck, etc. Unfortunately not all of them do that. It would be great if manufacturers started advertising 24p capability instead of this high frame rate nonsense, because the 24p is actually useful, the artificial motion is not.
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What a HUGE waste of money on this crappy tech!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LCD sucks! Why do people spend money on it????????

SAVE your money! Don't feed the corporate CRAPholes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]>Aug 28th 2008 3:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/video-sonys-200hz-motionflow-bravia-z4500-tricks-kids-into-sit/
So... bump it up to 200Hz, and you're far far far less likely to ever hit the TV in a refresh state, either with eyes or a camera.

Scottie]]>Aug 28th 2008 7:33PM