http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/ Engadget Comments for German Customs raids over 50 booths at IFA looking for patent infringements http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/Aug 29th 2008 7:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/


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it was a mall a archloch names RD. ing hate the small penis and had nen groosen maul dan his papa came and said hey RD. can I get my pimel stuck in your maul blabla blabl a dan blood came out and when it is not honest gelutcht dan wher has never been a good son end]]>Aug 29th 2008 7:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/Aug 29th 2008 8:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/Aug 30th 2008 5:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/
P.S. Patel, you spelled infringements incorrectly.

FIREFOX FTW! ]]>Aug 29th 2008 7:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/
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This is bad PR even if you believe something is wrong. That is why we have courts. Police should not get involved at this level. Now if this was a court order, due to a pending lawsuit, then I understand, but currently it seems like "I was just checking" big brother style.

Is it unlawful for conceptual work or does it have to be a selling product? If I made a proof of concept of an iPod clone that even plays itunes DRM, is it illegal just because I made it or do I have to sell it to make a commercially available product worthy of a lawsuite? Ity seems that until Meizu sells thier product, it is not illegal. I am not a lawyer which is why I am asking.
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This is bad PR even if you believe something is wrong. That is why we have courts. Police should not get involved at this level. Now if this was a court order, due to a pending lawsuit, then I understand, but currently it seems like "I was just checking" big brother style.

Is it unlawful for conceptual work or does it have to be a selling product? If I made a proof of concept of an iPod clone that even plays itunes DRM, is it illegal just because I made it or do I have to sell it to make a commercially available product worthy of a lawsuite? Ity seems that until Meizu sells thier product, it is not illegal. I am not a lawyer which is why I am asking.
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Sisvel has alerted the german authorities that some companies have patent infringing hardware on display. Sisvel became the exclusive reseller for MPEG DVB-T licenses (worldwide?) just three days ago: (see http://www.sisvel.com/pressrelease-DVBT-29082008.pdf ) - so they should know who has paid the license fee and who didn't - so it's just a matter of comparing two lists (licensees and IFA exhibitors)]]>Aug 29th 2008 7:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/Aug 29th 2008 7:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/Aug 29th 2008 8:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/Aug 29th 2008 8:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/Aug 30th 2008 2:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/Aug 29th 2008 8:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.heise.de/bilder/115126/0/1 ]]>Aug 29th 2008 8:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/Aug 29th 2008 8:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/
And Nilay, Sivel isn't German, they are Italian. It's all very weird, because nothing in the development of mpeg audio points to anything Sisvel or its partners did to develop the technology. I'm really curious why they can get away with making the Germans do all this hard work for them...]]>Aug 29th 2008 8:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.sisvel.com/pressrelease-DVBT-29082008.pdf

They became the exclusive and official MPEG license distributor three days ago. That's why the german authorities are forced by law to act.]]>Aug 29th 2008 8:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/
Sisvel has been after MPEG audio patent violators for years. I still don't get the German link, especially since it's the German Fraunhofer institute that actually invented it, and they have asked Thomson to handle licensing for them, not Sisvel.

Sisvel had nothing to do with developing the technology (from what I can tell).]]>Aug 29th 2008 8:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/Aug 30th 2008 10:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/Aug 29th 2008 8:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/
And in this case, the MPEG-LA doesn't even OWN any (or ever did own) MPEG Audio licenses.

From what I can tell here, these companies seem to own a tiny patent that may (or may not) be related to the technology in question, and make their money by selling it to people like Sisvel who think they then have the right to sue anyone they want. At the moment there are three different parties trying to collect revenue for mpeg audio...]]>Aug 30th 2008 8:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/Aug 30th 2008 9:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/Aug 30th 2008 3:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.vorbis.com
http://flac.sourceforge.net

...if they want to offer superior patent-free audio codecs.]]>Aug 29th 2008 9:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/Aug 29th 2008 9:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/

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2. As far as it concerns German customs: they've raided exactly those booths Sisvel told them too. That's at least what they told us while dismounting our products. For obvious reason I don't like the guys but claiming that the raids have anything to do with ethnical reasons is the dumbest thing I ever heard. ]]>Aug 30th 2008 5:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/Sep 1st 2008 1:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/Aug 30th 2008 6:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/Aug 30th 2008 6:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Beschlagnahmetour-des-Zoll-geht-weiter-Update--/meldung/115183 ]]>Aug 30th 2008 9:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/29/german-customs-raids-over-50-booths-at-ifa-looking-for-patent-in/Sep 1st 2008 1:06AM