http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/Sep 1st 2008 7:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/Sep 1st 2008 9:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/Sep 1st 2008 9:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/The new nano still looks horrible IRL]]>Sep 1st 2008 9:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/Sep 1st 2008 9:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/
But meh, this is moslty down to personal taste.]]>Sep 1st 2008 9:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/
As for this "next" Nano, meh, but this seems right now to be a mistake]]>Sep 1st 2008 9:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/Sep 1st 2008 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/If Apple had done the following:

1) Keep the size and shape of the current nano
2) Put a touchscreen on the entire interface (instead of the current half screen half wheel).

That would have been something very cool.]]>Sep 1st 2008 12:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/Sep 1st 2008 12:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/Sep 1st 2008 12:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/Sep 6th 2008 5:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/Like the Zen Stone, but with a good screen.]]>Sep 1st 2008 3:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/Sep 8th 2008 9:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/Sep 2nd 2008 9:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/IT DOES NOT REFLECT
The only way to really get a glare on it is to turn it at a very awkward angle that is not possible for human beings!
And I must say, it is very beautiful!]]>Nov 23rd 2008 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/Sep 1st 2008 7:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/Sep 1st 2008 7:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/Sep 1st 2008 7:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/Sep 1st 2008 8:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/Sep 2nd 2008 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/Remember the old 2g? The one with the tiny screen? This is that with a huge screen and cool capabilities
And it's even thinner, like so thin it might slip out of your hand.]]>Sep 27th 2008 11:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/
Apple make sure they achieve timeless designs, they dont get their inspiration from Chinese MP4/5/6/7 makers.]]>Sep 1st 2008 7:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/Sep 1st 2008 7:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/
Well, the article said it numerous times as well as the second picture which had the words iPod nano 4G printed on the case.]]>Sep 1st 2008 9:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/
]]>Sep 1st 2008 9:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/
Of course i know this is a bloody case. What do you think this case FITS??

The sloped screen design will not be the new Nano. THATS what i meant jeez.]]>Sep 1st 2008 10:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/
That's what everyone said about the current Nano 'Fatty' design too before it launched. I don't care for Apple at all, and I even stuck up for them, claiming such a lame design was beneath them.

I was wrong.]]>Sep 1st 2008 11:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/.. but the current one is fucking ugly also]]>Sep 1st 2008 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/
or is it just that Apple might have a 4g nano that stinks?

]]>Sep 1st 2008 7:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/Sep 1st 2008 7:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/
Unless you find out how to build in the 4th dimension,

STOP BITCHING ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!]]>Sep 1st 2008 12:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/Sep 1st 2008 1:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/Sep 1st 2008 7:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/Sep 1st 2008 7:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/1. will function as an iTunes library access point.
2. will have remote functioning like the Remote app for the iPhone OS.]]>Sep 1st 2008 8:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/Sep 1st 2008 9:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/
I'm no Apple update cycle expert, nor do I want to be, but my feeling is that Apple is updating the iPod Touch and the Nano at the same time for a reason. If I were Apple and just updated the iPhone by opening it up to 3rd party software development, and I were to want to update the Touch, I would turn it into a zone controller / iTunes access point / PMP. I would write only one app for the App store called "Remote" and see what kind of user feedback it generated, such as, "This is awesome!" or "It's the best remote for Apple TV." I would address the complaint that there's no product differentiation between the iPhone and the Touch by differentiating the products, e.g., by adding IR to the Touch instead of adding GPS for no good reason. I would make it even easier to set up a home iTunes network by allowing every wifi-enabled iPod to receive streaming audio and video content from the iTunes library. I would tip off accessory makers that the iPod line needs an HDMI compatible video dock, and that it can cost several hundred dollars. And I would add wifi to the Nano, a widescreen aspect, and remote functions.

Like I said, it's a low risk prediction. What do I care if people want to set up an XBox home network, an Apple home network, or just buy a PS3 and have a "network" on one TV. My Squeezeboxes are doing great, and I'm holding out on video until someone puts something together that makes some sense.]]>Sep 1st 2008 10:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/Sep 1st 2008 10:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/
It would eat into the sales of the iPod Touch
It would increase the price too well over what it is now

If the nano comes in with WiFi, just as much storage capacity, a large enough screen to watch movies comfortably whats the point of the Touch which would be much more expensive? Implementing WiFi in the Nano would also increase the price by 10-20% (30%+ most likely as this is Apple) it would put it way out of the range of the players it is currently competing with (Sansa, iRiver, Cowon, Samsung etc.) Apple already costs more then it's rivals but if it increased the price much more, people would go elsewhere for small flash based mp3/mp4 players.
]]>Sep 1st 2008 10:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/
My thought about the difference between Nano and Touch: the OS. The Touch is as you mention a very capable internet device, and its large touchscreen makes it a good remote. The only reason the Nano would be redesigned (as you said, in a different direction than every previous version) would be to participate in a home network. It will never be as good a remote as the Touch, to the degree that it would have those functions. I don't think it could actively stream high quality video from a network source.

The apps show the basic proof of concept: Remote was released in the App store because only those people who run an iTunes home network would want something like that. Simplify Media's 3rd party app demonstrates how the iPhone or Touch can stream audio from an iTunes library, over any network.

Apple needs to bring its home system together into one package. The best thing about having wifi PMPs with drastically reduced storage capacity on an iTunes network (other than remote functions which only a Touch or iPhone would be able to deliver in full) would be:
1. to serve as an access point (i.e., to receive content from the library) and
2. to "scrobble" the content from the library as accessed by each user/PMP, so that
3. iTunes can load your networked PMP with content you tend to play on the library as a whole, to offset the difficulty of managing a huge content library on a device with minimal storage.

Again, just my speculation.

My question is, what will happen to the iPod Classic?]]>Sep 1st 2008 11:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/
You know that if it has wifi it doesn't necessarily mean that it has to be a web browser. There are other benefits to having wifi - like wireless sync and multiplayer game options.

[cough] [cough] zune [cough]]]>Sep 1st 2008 11:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/Sep 1st 2008 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/
Wifi is not only for browsing the World Wide Web. Wifi is networking. Wifi is what allows a computer with a wireless card to access a modem wirelessly; the modem is what gets you onto the internet. You can have Wifi running without a modem. It's just a network.

Now, while i guarantee the number of people who use a Wifi router without a modem is around... 0, the point still stands that Wifi is for networking. That means remote capabilities, iTunes access, and hopefully some wireless syncing of some sort.]]>Sep 1st 2008 2:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/Sep 1st 2008 3:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/
If a 3rd party developer can write apps like that, 3rd party developers can do a lot of the things I'm talking about. Maybe not with video, but definitely with audio. Anything that someone else can program for the iTunes network, Apple might as well add if they feel like they can support the application and people want it. And only Apple can write apps that extend beyond the 3rd party SDK, officially anyway.

If you could do exactly what the Simplify Media app does but instead on the Nano, who wouldn't want that?

]]>Sep 1st 2008 11:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/
But at this point, not having any real clue what is going to happen -- except some rumors from Kevin Rose about a new Touch that is different, yet mostly the same, with "firmware 2.1" that might not be relevant to the iPhone, a strangely elongated Nano, and a new version of iTunes with no clear new features to warrant the change in version number -- I would definitely wait until the product updates.]]>Sep 1st 2008 11:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/ also: One billionth
or: Whatever Apple decides for that year.

iPhone : Engadget Unit of Measurement
ie: one iPhone length width height
or: Nothing has measured up to the iPhone as yet...]]>Sep 1st 2008 8:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/Sep 1st 2008 8:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/01/hands-on-with-hamas-ipod-nano-4g-case-at-ifa/
I like how they use an iPhone as a reference tho :P]]>Sep 1st 2008 8:16AM