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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nokia's Comes with Music service launches next month -- UK first]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</guid><description><![CDATA[<br>Nokia is using Microsoft PlayReady DRM which only works on some Nokia phones and in computers having latest Windows Media Player. Not compatible with other devices, no iPod's and not even M$ Zune. Going to be a bumpy ride for Nokia.....]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[BFish]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 2nd 2008 2:51AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nokia's Comes with Music service launches next month -- UK first]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</guid><description><![CDATA[If it's hitting the UK, continental Europe and Asia, when is it going to be released in North America?  Also, everyone is going to have a music store and an apps store soon enough; Apple may have been first but it's not exactly rocket science.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon Kepler]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 2nd 2008 2:52AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nokia's Comes with Music service launches next month -- UK first]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</guid><description><![CDATA[What was ever wrong wiht the third party developers doing their thing?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[fanman]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 2nd 2008 4:55AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nokia's Comes with Music service launches next month -- UK first]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</guid><description><![CDATA[u feel bad for a company that makes millions off of normal people?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[gabe]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 2nd 2008 3:07AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nokia's Comes with Music service launches next month -- UK first]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</guid><description><![CDATA[Free music for a year with a new phone is a pretty good incentive for the regular Joe  Shmoe who doesn't really care whether the tunes on his phones are copy-protected or not. It makes it a great value add that many tech blogs will just brush aside as something meaningless, which is a real shame. <br><br>If Apple had done something like this for every new iPod from now on, everyone would be kissing Steve Jobs feet...]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[dimsum05]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 2nd 2008 3:18AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nokia's Comes with Music service launches next month -- UK first]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</guid><description><![CDATA[<br>Note that there will be considerable price-tag for the 1yr downloads, low end phone <br>+ the 1yr service will propably be between 250-300€. You can buy 1yr download service <br>already from Ovi and no one is intrested.<br><br>There was news already in the summer that Jobs is looking also to start to bundle iPod's<br>with 'free downloads'. Anyway, you always top that to HW-price.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[BFish]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 2nd 2008 4:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nokia's Comes with Music service launches next month -- UK first]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</guid><description><![CDATA[@ This Is Apples Market Now<br><br>   Tell that to Shawn Fanning....and thousands of record shops that came before him...Q]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[chiwax]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 2nd 2008 4:10AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nokia's Comes with Music service launches next month -- UK first]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</guid><description><![CDATA["Nokia's "free," all-you-can-eat, music subscription service"<br><br>So you're saying iTunes has a music subscription service? Oh really? And now Nokia is copying that? Funny, I don't remember Apple being as so generous to offer alternative forms of music purchasing. <br><br>You fail. Mr. Apple Drone. You're not by chance Super Sexy Eric or what's his name, that used to give the same idiotic comments, are you? <br><br>I mean really, this is just a new low. Claiming a company is copying something Apple hasn't even done. I'm just amazed. Why don't you fess up how much Apple copies other guys too? ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Quikboy]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 2nd 2008 4:11AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nokia's Comes with Music service launches next month -- UK first]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</guid><description><![CDATA[I don't think these anti-DRM people realize that as long as you can output on a device the music can be listened to ANYWHERE!!!!   And I do mean ANYWHERE!!!!  Q.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[chiwax]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 2nd 2008 4:13AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nokia's Comes with Music service launches next month -- UK first]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</guid><description><![CDATA[<br>Music store, good idea. Device lock in, bad idea.<br>I've always liked Nokia, but not Sony Ericsson looks more attractive with their DRM free shop.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[j.d.ripper]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 2nd 2008 4:16AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nokia's Comes with Music service launches next month -- UK first]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</guid><description><![CDATA[Hmm... *great* assessment Engadget... of course the tracks won't play anywhere else - they want to shift phones! Just like Apple want to sell as many iPods/iPhones as they can off the back of iTunes... and before (Oh, I spoke too soon) someone tries to make the comparison, it's not as if the majority of Apple's music isn't wrapped in Fairplay DRM and plays on any player! Most of it will *only* play on Apples machines, no question. And Amazon MP3... paying for tracks and albums individually - sounds ridiculous when compared to this 'fatally flawed model'. Ricker's not the most objective reporter in the press room is he? Also an expert apparently. I'll take a 5310- even if I have to take it in pink and white...not my colours to be honest but I'm not that picky...I hope some more phones come out soon though - an N96 (here's hopin) on contract would only cost a bit more each month, surely?<br><br>@This Is Apples Market Now<br>"Apple, which released its iPhone handset last year, is also considering an “all you can eat” music service similar to Nokia’s" - <a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c2691dde-785d-11dd-acc3-0000779fd18c.html?nclick_check=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c2691dde-785d-11dd-acc3-0000779fd18c.html?nclick_check=1</a>     Who's copying who?<br><br>Jon Kepler's right - it's not rocket science : ) all the phone makers are doing this along with other services. It's not a question of copying - it's just the obvious thing to do.<br>Fair shout, that man.<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[advocate]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 2nd 2008 5:24AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nokia's Comes with Music service launches next month -- UK first]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</guid><description><![CDATA[Hint: next time you rant at the author you should read what the author wrote... or didn't write in this case. Not a single mention of iTunes.<br><br>DRM-free tracks are yours for life, not the lifetime of a device.<br><br>Thomas]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas Ricker]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 2nd 2008 6:45AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nokia's Comes with Music service launches next month -- UK first]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</guid><description><![CDATA[I like Nokia phones.<br><br>What I don't like is paying the members of the RIAA automatically as a part of getting a Nokia phone so that I have unlimited access to their recordings.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[dennis]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 2nd 2008 7:54AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nokia's Comes with Music service launches next month -- UK first]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</guid><description><![CDATA[*3rd attempt at posting this so apologies if this reaches you over and over but either (albeit innocently, you'd hope) the technology's not up to it or something is amiss...! heh : )<br><br>Thomas,<br>The iTunes remarks weren't aimed at you. As I said in the post, before 'someone' makes the comparison- i.e. the defensive Apple fans that have posted thus far. Otherwise I would have said "Hey Ricker/Engadget - what's with the iTunes mentions?" But I didn't. The remarks aimed at you were those DRM related and your comparison that Amazon MP3's traditional shopping basket model would somehow be a no question better alternative. No *hint* required, see?<br><br>I think technically the tracks from Nokia are yours for life even though they are DRM'ed. If your phone dies/is lost/ gets stolen you can still download your tunes again from your own personal Music Vault back to the phone or your computer. Presumably even if your computer dies you'll be able to download it all again. But if you were using an external hard drive the tracks would be yours for as long as you can keep that alive/backed up elsewhere. Just like all your non-DRM'ed music - it's got a shelf-life too unless you back it up elsewhere in case your hardware fails (which it will, eventually). Not ideal but maybe back-ups on an external HD could just be re-licensed...which seems to work with DRM music from elsewhere.<br><br>Ultimately though, DRM does *really really* suck - nobody appreciates the restriction. Even if you only intend to use one machine that is compatible with the DRM of your music shop of choice. There's 16000 tracks on my Ipod - of all the stuff I bought from iTunes, I burnt it and ripped it back to cut out the DRM. Even though I knew it would play the tunes anyway, maybe I'd want to put my music on my phone or another computer. Better to be 'free'.<br><br>If you look at the growing number music shops out there offering DRM-free music, it's obvious DRM's days in music are numbered regardless of where you go. It has to be to make legitimate digital music as good as/better than pirated music. I really hope it's a thing of the past sooner rather than later.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[advocate]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 3rd 2008 4:31AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nokia's Comes with Music service launches next month -- UK first]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</guid><description><![CDATA[thanks!<br><a href="http://tuanit.info" rel="nofollow">http://tuanit.info</a>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[tuan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sep 29th 2008 1:08PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nokia's Comes with Music service launches next month -- UK first]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/02/nokias-comes-with-music-service-launches-next-month-uk-first/</guid><description><![CDATA[“The first "all you can eat" music download service that lets users copy tracks to any device with no strings attached has launched in the UK today. Unlike Nokia Comes With Music, the Datz Music Lounge is all in MP3 and therefore doesn’t tie you up with a particular device. Get access to over 1.4 million tracks which will play on your iPod and unlike other services once downloaded the tracks are yours to keep forever, all for a 12 month contract costing a one off free of £99.99. findout more at datzmusiclounge.com”<br><br><br><br><br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ki]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Oct 30th 2008 8:13AM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>
