http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/ Engadget Comments for LaCie's new LCDs put NTSC to shame http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/Sep 10th 2008 10:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/Sep 10th 2008 10:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/Sep 10th 2008 10:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/Sep 10th 2008 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/
Contrast is a hyped up parameter that actually has relatively little impact on user experience: under normal circumstances, the human eye can only discern contrast to about 800:1 or so, thus anything more is undetectable anyway.

Here is a great article on what contract actually implies: http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/contrast-ratio.html]]>Sep 10th 2008 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/
contrast is one of the most important image qualties, more so than resoloution.

Saying 1000:1 is enough is a joke, I cant watch films on my LCD any more because its so hard to see what is going on in dark scenes.

Please try to watch The Assignation of Jessy James on an LCD, its a joke. I now use my CRT to watch movies and will continue to do so until OLED or whatever sorts the contrast out. I am not impressed enough by the new Kuros to pay for one.

You must work for Philips?



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These displays are for graphic users and for us that means contrast is the last thing on our minds!!! You want to watch the ASSASSINATION of Jessy James then buy and LCD TV. ]]>Sep 10th 2008 2:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/Next week we'll see huge heavy CRT's with trinitron being released I guess, then it's over to black & white and 12" and rounded tubes.

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Besides, higher resolutions on such a small monitor will only make text and interfaces smaller and harder to see, which for a "pro" user are not necessarily "pro"s.]]>Sep 10th 2008 10:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/Sep 10th 2008 10:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/Sep 10th 2008 10:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/Sep 10th 2008 11:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/Sep 10th 2008 10:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/Sep 10th 2008 10:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/
Tom Robertson
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Yeah, that explains it. Although it's been over two months now, so you must have a superhuman resistance to "fail."]]>Sep 10th 2008 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/Sep 10th 2008 2:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/Sep 11th 2008 2:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/Sep 10th 2008 10:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamut

The NTSC gamut doesn't cover the total spectrum of what is perceivable or reproducible, so representing over 100% of the gamut is totally possible. Think of it like saying I have more than 100% of your 4 apples.]]>Sep 10th 2008 10:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/Sep 10th 2008 10:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot_pitch#Common_dot_pitches_in_monitors]]>Sep 10th 2008 10:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/
...anybody? Hello?]]>Sep 10th 2008 10:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/Sep 10th 2008 10:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/Sep 10th 2008 10:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/
For graphics work, this is extremely important. The wider the color spectrum the better. This has long been the downfall of LCD screens, the very reason you can still see CRT monitors on some graphic designer's desks.]]>Sep 10th 2008 11:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/
Exactly.]]>Sep 10th 2008 11:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/
Then we can have a math class and a class on colorimetry to set the record straight.

NB]]>Sep 10th 2008 12:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/
Alright... I say that having more than 100% of a color gamut is total bullshit. This is because you can't display more than 100% of the colors in a gamut.

For instance, let's say there's a Cheese Gamut. There are 10 colors in the Cheese Gamut. If you display those 10 colors and another 11th color, you are not displaying 110% of the colors in the Cheese Gamut, you are displaying 100% of the colors in it, and then some other color from elsewhere. You can't display 110% of something! It's impossible and stupid and the terminology needs a serious overhaul.]]>Sep 10th 2008 1:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/
I didn't feel like taking the time to find a chart that showed the NTSC gamut but here is a chart that compares several others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Colorspace.png

Looking at this chart wouldn't it be fair to say that the "Pro Photo" Gamut has more than 100% of the colors of the sRGB Gamut?

]]>Sep 10th 2008 3:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/YUV is also used in MPEG and JPEG.
NTSC [National TV Standards Committee] As the name suggests is a TV standard so doesn't really apply to monitors.]]>Sep 10th 2008 10:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/Sep 10th 2008 11:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/Sep 10th 2008 11:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/Sep 10th 2008 11:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/In Blu-ray, only SMPTE-C gamut at 90% is used (and 10% of EBU gamut).
More info here (in french) :
http://hdsoir.blogspot.com/2008/09/le-gamut.html]]>Sep 10th 2008 12:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/
The panel would only be 8 or 10 bit anyway. I am not aware of anyone making panels more than 10-bit in the consumer space.

If you read this far, you might be wonder what's the point? I ask myself the same question...

NB]]>Sep 10th 2008 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/Model Vaio VGN-AW11XU btw, about $4K though, but meh, get your boss to pay it.

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Go with an NEC, SamsungXL or Eizo instead.]]>Sep 10th 2008 9:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/Sep 11th 2008 4:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/]]>Sep 11th 2008 5:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/lacies-new-lcds-put-ntsc-to-shame/Sep 13th 2008 6:06AM