http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/ Engadget Comments for Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex is raring to go, 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope already in the works http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2010 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 10th 2008 9:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/
1. Installing software is a pain if its not already in one of the Download Managers
2. Daily operations are not intuitive
3. Non-daily operations are a pain in the ass that require a terminal.
4. No native DirectX support and as good as Wine is, it's still not as good of quality as REAL DirectX and it's not as fast.
5. Why doesn't Nautilus have a button to switch to admin access? Or atleast prompt for the password if I want to add/edit a file requiring those permissions, as opposed to just giving me the middle finger?
6. Mounting/Unmounting a hard drives. Why is it that when i mount a hard drive and enter the admin password, it's available for all the users on the computer? WTF? It should be profile specific. And access settings should be EASY to figure out. I spent hours trying to do this with no luck.
7. You can't create a guest profile without a password????

Ubuntu has great potential and has plenty of eyecandy now, however it is still geared for a geek with an understanding of kernels and everything under the cover. It's not for the average person, and until then it's going to have it's quirks and have a smaller user base. As an average user, I should be able to use it's full potential without EVER going into a terminal and typing. Grandma is never going to go into a terminal and type "apt get...." or "sudo....". It's just not going to happen.]]>Sep 10th 2008 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/
1. Software installs are only difficult if there is not a .deb package available. If there is a .deb file for the software you can just double click and install it. That's even faster than Windows click next 5 times to start. I will admit that installing something that does not have a deb package is harder but hopefully linux as a whole will fix that some day.

2. Daily operations such as? You may not like how Gnome is setup then. Maybe give KDE4 a shot and see how you like it. I started off using KDE because it was much closer to Windows but now I'm on Gnome because everything works more reliably for me than early KDE4.

3. Also being worked on. There are new graphical tools coming out for many common things you may have to do. CLI is still faster if you know what you are doing but it's nice to have the option.

4. DX is a microsoft product so there will never be a native release. Wine works well enough for many gamers. If OpenGL took off again there would be many more native linux games available.

5. It's a security 'feature' for linux but I do like you idea though. Maybe submit it to http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ and it could be implemented in an upcoming release.

6. Can you do that on Windows? I've never heard of restricting access to a physical hard drive. Network drives yes, but physical, no.

Linux is not for everyone, that I won't dispute, but the last time I compiled my own kernel was in 2003 when I was doing a Gentoo stage 2 install. Anymore I just install the updates Ubuntu offers me and it's worked well for me so far. I use Ubuntu 8.04 on my laptop and home server but my main PC is still Windows for gaming and for some programs I can't get the alternative for on Linux.

For files that are not offered in the repositories try http://getdeb.net I've found a lot of great programs on there that I would have had to install manually.]]>Sep 10th 2008 11:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 10th 2008 11:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/
I agree it's not always so intuitive, but I don't understand why you expect DirectX in Linux when it's a proprietary MS technology (even MacOS X doesn't have DirectX for God's sake).

There is a learning curve, and no it's not as noob-friendly as Windows or OS X; ]]>Sep 10th 2008 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/
I've switch three pretty computer illiterate people over to Ubuntu because they were sick of Windoze running slow. As long as they know what to click on to open their internet browser and listen to their music they're perfectly happy. And don't get me started about installs in Windoze. Linux takes a couple clicks and your admin password in Synaptic or Add/Remove. Windoze takes 3 reboots and a lifetime of selecting the "No I don't want to send you all my personal information so I can register my product and you can spam me with offers." option that pops up every time I run said software.

Next time you try out Ubuntu go to their forums. Most, if not all of the issues you pointed out can be resolved there fairly painlessly.

Terminals kick ass. So much easier than digging through 7 or 8 layers of Windoze options.
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I so agree, there always seems to be something that doesn't quite work properly with my laptop. That said, 8.04 ran quite alright, even had 3D support!]]>Sep 10th 2008 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/
1. Yes, I did know about .deb files and they do work good. However, it seems like 25% or more of the software out there doesn't have one of those and you have to go chugging back into the terminal and hope you have all the prerequisites or you wind up going down a rabbit hole of dependencies. I guess that's the double edge sword of having options. Some programmers don't go the extra step of creating a DEB file and thus leave out possible users.

2. Daily Operations such as listening to music that is on another hard drive. I have to mount it before playing the music. The other hard drive is a Windows drive that is NTFS. I don't want my roommates to have full access to that hard drive so when i'm done listening to music, i have to unmount the drive because Linux apparently doesn't listen to NTFS permissions. ??? In addition to #1 and the Nautilus admin annoyance, these are probably my main gripes.

3/4. Sounds good and I've never heard of CLI. Did I mention Ubuntu needs to come with a "Welcome to Ubuntu. Dummies proceed this way.." guide that tells them all this stuff. And hopefully Steam/Valve will support the new OpenGL standard. But I have my doubts.

5. I looked and it does seem to be listed as an idea already (though it's closed ??). Glad to know I'm not the only one.

6. Has to do with what i'm doing on #2. Either support NTFS permission settings on the hard drive, or else require other logged in users to enter the admin password to mount it. It seems like a security flaw to ignore NTFS permissions and allow other users on the computer to have access to a hard drive just because the admin mounted it under a different user name.

crsh,
I'd like to move to Linux because it is Open Source and free. Enough said.]]>Sep 10th 2008 6:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/
And if you encounter a piece of software without a deb package, I would make one myself (just Google a tutorial and there are some pieces of software that do it for you; debcreator is one), and send it back to the developer with a letter lecturing him. Sometimes, though, it might be that the piece of software is too experimental, and they don't want to promise anything.

And I couldn't agree more with crsh. To all potential users, LINUX IS NOT WINDOWS. Don't expect it to become Windows (unless Windows 7 is actually Linux disguised).]]>Sep 11th 2008 8:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 10th 2008 9:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 10th 2008 9:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/
http://wubi-installer.org/

It's painless, and to my eye seems to almost run at the speed of an actual install. ]]>Sep 10th 2008 10:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/
Excited for the next release :D Managed to switch my sister (12, not in any way interested in tech) over to ubuntu 8.04 and she loves it. Does everything she needs, pidgin for IM, firefox for the net, songbird for her iPod etc. Now i don't have to troubleshoot the viruses, corrupt files, and driver issues with her wireless adapter every two seconds :P

I can really see ubuntu becoming a popular OS for people who just want a computer to do what they want out of the box - no viruses, no need for bloated protection software, no need to buy fresh hardware every few years to get the latest windows running - its just great :)]]>Sep 10th 2008 9:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 10th 2008 9:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 10th 2008 9:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 10th 2008 9:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/
I have been a linux user since '96 and I will be the first to admit that it isn't for everything and I never push it on anyone, I do suggest from time to time when the conditions are right. I have used a wide varity of distos, but my main one for the past 3 or so years has been Gentoo, which is a very high level and advanced distro. I however wanted something that "just worked" for my laptop, Gentoo worked, but there was tweaking to do and I just don't feel that compiling every package is a good idea on a laptop especially on battery power. I have played with Ubuntu, but decided to give it a chance on the laptop. Everything "just worked", it was nice, no fuss. The only thing I had add was the Thinkpad drivers, which allowed me to take advantge of the addition features the Thinkpad has, including the finger print scanner, but hibirnation and other hardware worked. I understand that isn't the case for everyone, but it is for a large enough group of people. Ubuntu has shown what linux can be for the average consumer, it isn't as much a "geek" or "nerd" OS that you need a lot of computer knowledge to run.

It isn't perfect, but like I said above, no OS it. But the fact remains that it does have it place and there has been more than enough sucess stories of computer illiterate users using it with out or with minor problems.

The iPod not working is not linux fault, it is Apple. There has been a lot of work done in getting iPods working with out Apples help. I really have a destain for Apple since they took the Mach kernel under the BSD license along with other code under the BSD license to create OSX, yet they have given next to nothing back to the community that did all the work for them. They just hide behind the BSD license, which is bullshit that they even can. Apple should embrace the community that gave them all the code and open up their software more. iTunes is not good software, it is bloated and if you do customize it before using it, it will take over all your media on the computer. On top of that, you are forced to use it to use the iPod. This needs to change, they can keep stuff "locked down" and safe if they are so worried, but they need to release a minamal, no resource hogging and cross platform app that allows users who have iPod but don't want to be forced to use iTunes some basic functionality of their iPod. People just want to be able to use their iPod touch with linux to sync their music, that is all, is that really too much to ask of Apple?]]>Sep 10th 2008 10:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/
I think it was clear what i meant when i said "for people who just want a computer to do what they want out of the box" that i was refering to non techie users :P Anyway, whats the, as you put it, "average joe" likely to do on a computer, lets say 45 year old parent who wants to keep up with there kids on the net, check her emails, buy stuff online, write up a CV, copy CD's to her music player etc. - the simple basic stuff.

Ubuntu does this out of the box no problem, no need to install extra software, no need to configure anything.

And if you were t go further, these people aren't interested in the latest, fastest, do it all hardware. They want something that works for them. I simple dual-core could last them an extra 2 or 3 years running linux over having to buy a new system when Microsoft decides to release a new OS :) Also, these people are not gonna want or possibly know how to maintain a system, no defragging ubuntu, no anti-virus scans, and the firewall is configured on first boot :)]]>Sep 10th 2008 10:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/
Using Samba was a pain that required hours of time on messageboards and terminal commands.

She hated Open Office. It took too long to open and it was a memory hog.

And for some reason Gnome started to crash.

And as for this whole "once you install it, it's almost maintenance free" mantra? it's a total lie. Unless all you want to do is type an occasional paper, and look at some websites.


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I see countless people who just use their computers for the following things:
-Writing letters
-Browsing
-Checking e-mail
-Playing music
-Looking at pictures

To which I say: use Ubuntu! Here, have a live CD! It's free!]]>Sep 10th 2008 6:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/waiting to see the new release....surprises me every time...more compatibility
:P]]>Sep 10th 2008 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 10th 2008 11:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 10th 2008 9:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 10th 2008 9:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 10th 2008 10:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 10th 2008 11:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 10th 2008 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 11th 2008 2:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 10th 2008 9:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 10th 2008 11:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/
My current guest OS's are Ubuntu 8.04 (!), latest OpenSUSE, Win XP. I haven't tried using windows as the host OS, but I've read of many that do so it must work OK.]]>Jan 4th 2009 11:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/
Can't wait to give 8.10 a go when it gets released ^^]]>Sep 10th 2008 9:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 10th 2008 10:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 10th 2008 10:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 12th 2008 10:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 11th 2008 11:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/
Um, not sure about what you're talking about here. Ubuntu has to be the easiest operating system to upgrade. If you choose "Distribution Upgrade" from Update Manager, you click a few buttons, walk away and an hour later you've upgraded to the next distribution. Worked from 7.04 to 7.10, and 7.10 to 8.04. ]]>Sep 10th 2008 10:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/
The last time I did that, I came back from work, and it was still going through the motions...7 hours later.

It was always just quicker to just download it to a CD, and do it that way.]]>Sep 10th 2008 10:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 10th 2008 1:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 10th 2008 10:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 10th 2008 11:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 10th 2008 10:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Us linux users may be a minority, but when a company finds out that they could have increased sales by swapping a $10 broadcom wifi card for a $10 intel wifi card........]]>Sep 10th 2008 10:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 10th 2008 10:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 10th 2008 1:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 10th 2008 10:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 10th 2008 10:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/Sep 10th 2008 12:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/10/ubuntu-8-10-intrepid-ibex-is-raring-to-go-9-04-jaunty-jackalope/
Ubuntu 8.04 fully supports suspend and hibernate on my Dell Inspiron 1501. Even the shitty Broadcrap wireless card "Just works".]]>Sep 10th 2008 12:16PM