http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/A political firestorm is going on in another story.

Whats with the odd steps in memory? 896? What the....???]]>Sep 16th 2008 3:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/= 512+384
= 512 + 256 + 128
= 7 x 128
so maybe its just a 128 module short of a GB. Probably just shaved off that RAM chip to save some cost in a place where its not likely to be a big performance difference. Isn't somewhere between 512 and 1024 supposed to be as much as is needed for most games?

What really confuses me is the 216 cores, which is 128+64+16+8. How do they make these things? Is it 23 sets of 8 core "somethings" built onto the same die? I mean 23? That's a frikkin prime number.]]>Sep 16th 2008 4:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/Sep 16th 2008 4:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/Sep 16th 2008 5:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/
896MB because the card has a 448 bit memory bus (down from 280's 512 bit bus and 1GB mem) - 2MB per bit of bus

now, cores - as this is not a new chip but all GTX's are based on the target of 240 cores per chip design adding an intermediate sku between the 240 core GTX 280 and the 196 core GTX 260 is not really tied to yields but more so to marketing - at 216 cores the new 260 is faster than the old 260 but not fast enough as to challenge the 280.

The texture unit increase is likewise, incremental.

If you are interested how exactly these stack up Anand has a comprehensive article about them.

As a side note: they should have named it the GTX 270 to keep it clear and simple.


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Not wrong, just not fully right.

Peace.]]>Sep 16th 2008 5:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/Sep 16th 2008 3:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/Sep 16th 2008 3:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/which is better than the 8800 GTS 640MB, the 640MB only had the G90 core.
But I don't mind... It just took a couple hours of research.]]>Sep 16th 2008 3:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/
if they ran out after 9800 they coulda done what ati did and swtich the 10 to a roman X]]>Sep 16th 2008 4:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/
I would settle for a stick that says [runs Crysis in Very High *]

* = requires dual core CPU + 3GB RAM]]>Sep 16th 2008 3:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/Sep 16th 2008 4:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/Sep 16th 2008 4:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/Sep 16th 2008 5:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/
Instead of all the labels, numbers, and name, they should just have a "Runs Crysis on very high, with a framerate of XX on max resolution and processing power" label on the box.]]>Sep 16th 2008 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/Sep 16th 2008 3:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/Sep 16th 2008 3:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/
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Yes, nVidia should give them a new code number ... two cards with different performance with the same name is stupid.]]>Sep 16th 2008 6:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/
Does this card run on a mac? :P ]]>Sep 16th 2008 3:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/Sep 16th 2008 4:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/Sep 16th 2008 3:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/Sep 16th 2008 4:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/
I used to love nvidia, but these days I won't go near their products with a 10 foot pole. It'll take a more than a few rampant-failure-free product revisions on the part of nvidia before I'll be willing to consider buying their products again.]]>Sep 16th 2008 4:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/Good what a bit of competition does to product offerings.
]]>Sep 16th 2008 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/
Anandtech has a bit more balanced review:

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3408]]>Sep 16th 2008 4:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/Sep 16th 2008 4:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/Sep 16th 2008 7:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/Sep 16th 2008 4:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/and shaving some ram off doesn't save any money, it adds cost cause you gotta use more chips
not to mention adding ram is easy compared to the other stuff, you do you think you see so many 512mb low end cards
896mb was just a bad move

you also got the part about the core wrong, they call it a core 216, it doesnt have 216 cores, they are stream processors
the 4870 has 800 stream processors but other things account for what makes the card faster or not]]>Sep 16th 2008 4:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/Sep 16th 2008 4:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/Sep 17th 2008 11:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/Sep 16th 2008 5:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/
And the fact that Windows 7 is already being developed and is going to be released in 2 years leaves a bad feeling in my wallet. Windows Vista had even longer development time and look how much it sucked.

Might I add that M$ is already planning the successor OS to Windows 7 (Currently codenamed Midori, but we all know that will change) gives my bank accounts nightmares.

This is why I love Linux.]]>Sep 17th 2008 9:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/
Anyway I don't care much for R&D, if nVidia has a problem with ATI they should settle it in court. Meanwhile, I'll stick to the cheap and capable Radeons.... if the reviews recommend them.]]>Sep 16th 2008 5:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/Sep 16th 2008 5:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/Sep 16th 2008 8:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/Sep 16th 2008 7:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/ll]]>Sep 17th 2008 4:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/Sep 16th 2008 10:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/Sep 17th 2008 9:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/Sep 16th 2008 11:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/Sep 17th 2008 2:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/16/nvidia-debuts-geforce-gtx-260-core-216-graphics-card/Sep 17th 2008 6:20AM