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I'm sick and tired of idiots running around saying government should be doing this - but not be doing this...

Government should not be involved in our personal lives, but, should be banning gay marriage, abortion , etc.

STUPID HIPOCRITICAL BULLSHIT.

The government should protect its people their property and tax them to pay for it. That's a given. Anything else it does or doesn't do should be decided by INTELLIGENT VOTERS. unfortunately, America doesn't have any of them.

These idiots think PALIN is brilliant. Guess they didn't see the Couric interview or DO ANY STUDYING AT ALL about her. Not even that fossil-with one foot in the grave -
John McChicken

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Power transmission and other utility lines are already quazi-state/corporate partnerships, because 'competition' is difficult to do when there is really only one right-of-way for utility usage.

In this case we are again faced with a limited resource (frequency) that is already held in a quazi-government/corporate manor.

You cannot have pure capitalism when it comes to a finite resource like frequency spectrum. You HAVE to have government intervention, otherwise people would just be broadcasting signals over each other.

So then the question becomes, what role should government play in all of this? Some may argue that the government should take a more active role in managing radio frequencies in a similar way that they manage roads. This isn't 'socialism', it is simply the government managing finite resources.]]>Sep 28th 2008 4:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/
They do this now with local municipalities and win all the time.

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There is no invisible hand. Their is no FREE MARKET.

If you've been paying attention in the US or in Europe, you've got unconstitutional, unelected people FIXING PRICES and debasing currency.

You've got an American financial system that tried deregulation and created the worst economic failure in the history of HISTORY.

If this was a FREE MARKET, right now, I could sell peanuts to Iran, North Korea or Cuba.

FREE MARKET MY ASS !]]>Sep 27th 2008 1:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/Sep 27th 2008 1:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/

OH MY GOD... that actually sounds like DEMOCRACY. ]]>Sep 27th 2008 1:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/Sep 27th 2008 2:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/Sep 27th 2008 2:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/
Americans especially seem to love using credit instead of cash--which is basically how the contract works right now. Users spread the cost of their hardware over the life of their contract instead of shelling out the full monty up front. In exchange, they give up their freedom to leave the carrier, and they usually buy more minutes than they're actually using.

Some Sony and Wii users complain about the Xbox Live subscription cost, but it basically functions the same way. Microsoft took a loss on their console, knowing a significant percentage of people would want the Live Gold functionality and be happy to pay the cost of an extra game a year for it. Over the life of that users' subscription, the hardware loss is wiped out, some profit is accumulated and they can keep all their licensing fees as gravy.

If Sony and Nintendo charged for their services, and depended on them for revenue as heavily as MS does, NWFC and PSN might not suck as bad (this, from a Wii owner).

If Google rid of contracts, there would be loads of benefits. But there would costs as well, and not one iota fewer internet complainers.]]>Sep 27th 2008 3:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/Sep 27th 2008 3:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/
p.s. what ever happened with www.grandcentral.com ??????????]]>Sep 27th 2008 7:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/Sep 27th 2008 8:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/While I love this idea, I'd settle for a version of the G1 that:

1) has quadband GSM and quadband UMTS (ie. euro, asian, "NAM", and T-Mobile-USA)
2) has 2 SIM cards
3) allows you to pick, statically or dynamically, which SIM card to use for outgoing voice (perhaps even assign it on a phone number by phone number basis in a contact's entry)
4) allows you to pick, statically or dynamically, which SIM card to use for outgoing SMS/MMS
5) allows you to simultaneously receive voice calls on both SIM cards
6) allows you to simultaneously receive SMS/MMS on both SIM cards
7) allows you to pick which SIM card to use for starting individual data sessions (Nokia's S60 devices already allow you to pick which access point (T-Mobile Internet, T-Zones, local Wifi, etc.), this would just extent that to either associating a SIM card with a given access point, or picking them on the fly)

Then you could pick the best of any particular carrier for whichever services you're using. Want data from AT&T and voice from T-Mobile Pay-Per-Day? No problem. Or maybe some phone calls on AT&T pay-per-day, and some on T-Mobile pay-per-day ($2/day for unlimited mobile to mobile on both networks).

In terms of carrier interactions, that'd just about make the G1 perfect.]]>Sep 27th 2008 8:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/Sep 27th 2008 10:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/Sep 28th 2008 7:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/
i may sound hippie-dippie but what makes the internet and cell phones so great is the access it gives us to a vast amount of knowledge and the ability to stay in contact with one another. knowledge is so powerful and important, and communication can move mountains. everyone should be able to experience what the internet has to offer.

[sorry if this posted twice... posting on engadget is so difficult for me, lol]]]>Sep 28th 2008 7:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/Sep 28th 2008 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/27/google-patent-keeps-airwaves-competitive-by-selecting-the-cheape/
"I like the cut of your jib."]]>Sep 29th 2008 9:37AM