http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/ Engadget Comments for iriver's SPINN up for pre-sale, shipping October 3rd http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/Sep 29th 2008 3:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/Sep 29th 2008 3:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/Sep 29th 2008 4:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/How about reliability and battery life for a start? Plus the fact that a HDD would likely force the player to become a bloated version of what it is just now.

Plus, who actually NEEDS to carry round 160GB of files with them?
When are you ever going to watch or listen to even half of them?]]>Sep 29th 2008 7:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/Sep 29th 2008 3:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/Sep 29th 2008 3:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/yea though, this is seriously overpriced...too bad]]>Sep 29th 2008 5:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/Sep 29th 2008 3:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/Sep 29th 2008 3:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/]]>Sep 29th 2008 10:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/Sep 29th 2008 3:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/
Originally the spinn was to have an expansion slot which would excuse its small capacity, but this is just weak.

Also, with it being touch sensitive, they should have added some kind of simple navigation buttons on the sides (play/pause, next, previous). Pulling out the thing from a pocket only to pause it, or go to the next song (because u cant see where ur pressing) will be hell.

Yet another potentially true ipod killer mp3 player, except, the manufacturer bricks it before its even released to the public, and many months TOO LATE, seeing how its been, what, 6+ months?]]>Sep 29th 2008 3:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/
bass? whats that]]>Sep 29th 2008 4:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/
Flash = Smaller risk (solid state?), smaller space, however, faster, stronger, and a slim sexy beast, therefore, expensive...(er).



As what the iPod hooker said, "Pay up."

Unless you want a fat old ugly...thing of shiny metal *cough Archos cough*...(just kidding...I love metal paper weights).


P.S
I try really really really very hard for proper English, grammarians can suck my keyboard.




]]>Sep 29th 2008 4:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/Sep 29th 2008 6:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/
Somethings already sucking on it.]]>Sep 29th 2008 2:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/Sep 29th 2008 5:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/Sep 29th 2008 6:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/If you don't understand the 'point' of a device pushing ahead to a new/better technology, you probably shouldn't be reading engadget.]]>Sep 29th 2008 7:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/Yes, AMOLED screens are still relatively new and, therefore, relatively expensive but that doesn't for one second excuse what iRiver have done here.

The 8GB Clix2 retailed for around $250 when first released, if memory serves.
It also has an AMOLED screen, albeit a smaller one. But the difference in screen size will have been more than out-weighed by the fact that the technology has moved on in the past year and will, therefore, have reduced production costs, also the drop in flash memory prices will have also gone some way to counteract the increased costs that go along with an increased screen size.
So, there's absolutely no reason why this player should cost such ridiculous amounts for such small capacities.

iRiver created a great concept in the SPINN but then they did exactly the same thing they've done to all their recent players, stripping it of features, cutting corners to reduce costs and then releasing it at a price that's unmarketable.
There's only so many times excuses can be made before you have to accept that they're just a bunch of cowboys - and we're well beyond that point now.]]>Sep 29th 2008 7:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/Sep 29th 2008 7:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/
But their website could be improved. It looks like someone scanned a manual and converted it to .html.

Times new roman and Verdana on the same page; spelling mistakes, God.

Seriously, they ought to get a good or even average web designer to give it an overhaul.
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http://www.iriver.com/

their websites (as in their japanese, hong kong, korean, european, etc) are excellently designed in terms of both graphics and interface... you should probably make sure youre barking up the right tree next time. ]]>Sep 29th 2008 5:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/Sep 29th 2008 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/Sep 29th 2008 5:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/
They come with this awesome looking device and don't include support for AAC. I mean have they been hiding under a rock whilst billions of AAC (not all DRMd) songs were sold on iTunes and billions more were ripped by iPod owners.

Don't they want iPod owners to switch to the SPINN ?
]]>Sep 29th 2008 6:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/
But, no, iRiver probably aren't expecting many people to switch - they've been making superior products for years and yet Apple are still the market leader, so why would that change now?
Most iPod owners are now entrenched in iTunes because the vast majority of songs bought from there are the crappy-quality, DRM-ridden versions. People who are prepared to pay for songs like that won't walk away from their locked-down music collection so they can have a better DAP, they'll just keep buying more iPods.]]>Sep 29th 2008 7:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/Sep 29th 2008 8:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/
And if you think all iPod owners are just mindless sheep who won't contemplate a different device then your just as dumb as iRiver. ]]>Sep 29th 2008 8:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/Sep 29th 2008 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/Sep 29th 2008 6:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/
The GUI and screan are awsome tho, ]]>Sep 29th 2008 6:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/Sep 29th 2008 5:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/Sep 29th 2008 10:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/Sep 29th 2008 11:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/Sep 29th 2008 4:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/
Also, I don't know why people complain so much about the memory. You can always switch stuff out.
I've been waiting for this player for such a long time. I'm a long-time happy iriver customer. In fact, I still use my H10 20 GB nearly daily.]]>Sep 30th 2008 9:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/
fyi the screen is AMOLED, which is different then OLED.]]>Oct 8th 2008 4:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/irivers-spinn-up-for-pre-sale-shipping-october-3rd/Oct 9th 2008 3:05AM