http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/Sep 29th 2008 1:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/Sep 29th 2008 2:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/Sep 29th 2008 2:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/Sep 29th 2008 6:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/Sep 29th 2008 2:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/Sep 29th 2008 2:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/Sep 29th 2008 10:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/
Not everyone can afford it. plain simple truth.
do you really think that it hurts the company one some guy pirates it when he wouldn't normally buy it anyways?
if anything it helps the company. if your going to steal. steal our product. brand recognition...
now that i make a bit more money than i did when i was 18 i AM more inclined to pay for the software. if only for the sake of not having to crack it. ]]>Sep 29th 2008 11:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/
Tivo is built on Linux. If they're going to do an app, the least they could do is deliver a version of it for Linux. And if they're gonna do that, why not one for the Mac, as well?
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And that doesn't even take into account the other differences, such as the quality of the metadata about the TV shows. TiVo's feed allows it to do more than just record a program off the air at a given time, or record all shows of the same title.

A TiVo interface on the Mac would be great. (As would the release of this product to the EU market.)]]>Sep 29th 2008 9:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/Sep 29th 2008 2:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/
"This isn't anything that can't already be done with any other ATSC tuner card, a transcoder like SUPER, and XBMC (the latter two components being FREE as in BEER."

You're basically paying $100 for the Nero label and $99, probably annually, for the Tivo interface. I don't like either company enough to drop that kind of coin in favor of free software that works well. Unless (see previous post)... HD recorded over cable. If this software supports multiple HD tuners that can be added to an existing PC, they've got a sale. I just don't find that likely.]]>Sep 29th 2008 2:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/Sep 29th 2008 3:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/
All of this is in addition to the fact that this Nero Liquid TV product most likely can't record HD over cable either, making it a more expensive solution to a problem that most have already worked out for almost no cost. Ebay a Hauppauge card and you're 90% of the way there.]]>Sep 29th 2008 3:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/Sep 29th 2008 11:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/Sep 29th 2008 2:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/Sep 29th 2008 6:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/Sep 29th 2008 2:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/Sep 29th 2008 3:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/
If Tivo knows what's good for them, they would provide at least a three week free trial.]]>Sep 29th 2008 8:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/Sep 29th 2008 2:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/Sep 29th 2008 3:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/Sep 29th 2008 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/
Oh yeah. More ads + more features + more crap on the interface = faster. My bad.]]>Sep 29th 2008 3:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/Sep 29th 2008 2:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/Sep 29th 2008 3:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/Sep 29th 2008 5:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/Sep 29th 2008 9:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/Oct 3rd 2008 8:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/Sep 29th 2008 6:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/
Anyone??]]>Sep 29th 2008 8:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/Sep 29th 2008 9:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/
ATI has a product, I'm not sure if it is out yet or not, that supports CableCARD. However this is an external solution, so not only do you have your HTPC box, but you will also have this other box attached to your PC. This is where you would connect your cable line and inset your CableCARD. This ATI box is supported under Vista and will allow you to record HD from your cable company.

Some other options include recording over the air (OTA) HD using one of Hauppage's or various other manufacturer's tuner cards, this pretty much limits you to only the channels that you receive locally.

Sometimes when you have cable, they also send what's known as QAM HD channels to your home, you may not know about these channels unless you've actually tried a QAM tuner. I have one built into my TV and when I had cable hooked up to it I scanned with the built in tuner. I picked up several HD channels such as HBO, etc.. Of course I was paying for a regular HBO subscription at the time. But I also received several local channels in HD. A popular QAM tuner is also an external box like the ATI, called the HDHomeRun.

Anyways, hope that clears it up. You can buy pre-built HTPC's from certain companies that offer internal CableCARD support but they are expensive.]]>Sep 29th 2008 2:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/for those that say you cant record HD you need to do your research people. it has nothing to do with your software and everything to do with what tv tunner card you are running

sorry tivo, your product is a joke and about 5 years too late]]>Sep 29th 2008 10:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/
Tivo needs to have a business model that makes them money from cable/sat box software licensing, not these BS subscription fees. Subscription services have been run into the ground. I think people are very wary of having yet another monthly expense these days.
If you're going to do that then you REALLY have to offer the customer something of standout value. That said, 8 bucks a month is substantially better than the 15 or so they were charging their standalone box customers for the same data.
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Bogus83:
As for recording HD off cable on your pc, the only way your going to do it without a cablecard is via firewire, if you have a compatible settop box. My experience has shown this to be only semi-reliable at best.]]>Sep 29th 2008 11:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/
While I do prefer free and open source front-ends like XMBC, I'd have absolutely no problem purchasing one or more CableCards IF I could use them with my pre-existing system. I understand the DRM-related reasons why they only work with certified systems, but that restricts their usefulness to people who either don't already have an HTPC, or who don't mind scrapping their existing HTPC and are financially able to do so.

My point in a nutshell was given the fact that CableCard is the only way to record HD to a PC, "Liquid TV" doesn't do anything more, or better, than has been done before. It's just a fancy package for people who prefer these brands. There's nothing wrong with that, but it's not for me.]]>Sep 29th 2008 2:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/Sep 29th 2008 11:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/Sep 29th 2008 2:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/nero-liquidtv-tivo-pc-brings-tivo-interface-to-the-pc/
I MIGHT try it, depending on the card reviews, and it should be the easiest one to set up as a novice.

? Is there a card that can take 2 video inputs at once?, The place I am in has free DTV, but just about 20ch, with half seemingly useless,
I ALSO have an HDTV converter that I could plug in and get the free over the air channels.

What I would like to do is have them both hooked up and be able to (seamlessly?) run through them.

Looking at building an box using my old AMD system (4400+ 6G) as the basis
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