She's arrived at last, the
5800 XpressMusic, Nokia's tardy entry into the (modern) touchscreen phone space, and we've gotten some quality face time with the device. Appropriately nicknamed the Tube, the device has a number of Nokia peculiarities that could appeal to certain sensibilities, but probably won't be taking a big bite out of existing touchphone market share -- at least in the S60-phobic United States. Let's dig in, shall we?
Hardware
Resistive touchscreen, huh Nokia? We're intrigued, but certainly wouldn't say impressed. Nokia claims the decision was made to appeal to the world market, particularly asian countries that prefer handwriting recognition to keyboards. Hence the stylus input option. It doesn't ruin everything for those of us that would rather tap with our thumbs, but means pushing that much harder on the screen, and using the tips of your fingers when you type instead of the flat -- knocking off a good 5 wpm or so in the process -- we'll talk more about software keyboards in the next section. There's also a plectrum (guitar pick) included that can hang from a wrist strap if you don't want to smudge the screen and don't feel like sliding out the stylus.
The LCD itself is certainly impressive, at 640 x 360, but colors and brightness aren't complete knockouts. Purists will enjoy the dull screen surface, which certainly cuts down on glare, but casual users often prefer glossy screens for watching movies, something this aspect ratio is very well suited to.
There's a very, very loud speaker in the back. It's not the clearest thing in the world, but if you want to share a song or something with a friend, they'll certainly hear it. There's also a 3.5mm jack up top, right where it should be.
The 3.2 megapixel camera focuses well and takes great pictures in daylight -- indoors is likely a different story, as with most cameraphones, but there's a rather powerful dual LED flash to help out with that.
All of this -- in addition to things like GPS, WiFi and a side-loading microSD slot (there's a free 8GB card included) -- are wrapped up into an elongated, chubby package, hence the Tube moniker. We'd hate to have something of its shape and thickness in a tight jeans front pocket on a regular basis, but we must admit that it's very comfortable to hold and use with a single hand, something that can't be said for all touchscreen phones.
Software It's S60, so if you were hoping for something else you'll be sorely disappointed. Nokia's done "just enough" to turn the traditional interface into a touchable one with version 5.0, sizing up icons, adding finger-friendly buttons in lieu of traditional menu items and so forth. What Nokia hasn't quite figured out is consistency, requiring double taps in some places, single taps in others. Scrolling through most lists requires dragging a scroll bar, pulling down as the list flies up, but the browser has touch and drag scrolling. Nothing's too frustrating or unreasonable, but this is no seamless experience.

What's new is a touch-sensitive button above the screen that drops down the Media Bar for access to music, movies, photos, the browser and sharing. Not life changing, but quite convenient. There's also a new home screen with a "Fav Four" of sorts across the top and little else. Tap that friend, and you can get a quick look at recent calls, messages and even related RSS feeds. Pretty neat if you're a loner, but there's no way to add more than four friends, or view similar info for your regular contacts that don't make the cut. Luckily, the traditional S60 home screen is also available.

For text input you have four options: handwriting, mini QWERTY keyboard, full screen QWERTY and alphanumeric keypad. The first two are stylus-based (that mini QWERTY is truly mini), while the other two are only available in landscape and portrait modes, respectively. Like we said in the hardware end of things, the resistive touch means using the tips of your fingers instead of the pads, which we find a tad frustrating, but the keyboard in landscape mode is truly gargantuan, and after an hour or two of learning we're guessing you could rattle off some pretty lengthly emails or Great American Novels. Luckily, if you're a T9 fan there's nothing stopping you from keeping the phone in portrait mode and rattling off text messages with the touchable alphanumeric keypad, and the phone is frankly too narrow to work well with QWERTY in portrait. The handwriting recognition looks good enough, but we revert to a 2nd grade writing level whenever we pick up a pen, so that stylus is staying firmly in its holster.
We're not convinced the touchable browser is a step up over existing WebKit implementations on Nokia's other handsets, since the tap to zoom function is slow and unreliable -- and no, you can't select text from web pages to copy and paste. Panning around the page is also jittery, perhaps a tad worse than the G1 -- nobody has managed to pull off iPhone smooth yet in this department. We were using a slightly early software build, so some of these problems might be fixed in the final version, but it wasn't encouraging. Still, there's no denying the advantages of viewing the web on a 640 x 360 LCD.

We tested out an accelerometer-based driving game, but it was overly sensitive and no-fun-at-all -- though we're guessing that wouldn't be a hard fix. The graphics looked pretty good, though. Movies are potentially this phone's killer app, but you'll have to do the conversion just right to get smooth playback at full resolution. We did see some video shot with the phone (that Sea World shot in the gallery) and it looked pretty good.
Conclusion If you haven't picked it up by now, Nokia isn't going after the power users here. The phone will be marketed under Nokia's "Live" banner, and really concentrates on the most basic communications -- calling and texting -- with a whole bunch of multimedia piled on top. Nokia's Comes With Music helps on that end of things, and the screen certainly helps with video, but this is no iPhone when it comes to to solid media integration or full-featured media player apps. On the communication side, we're sad to see Nokia almost burying some of its S60 advantages. Everything's still there, but Nokia didn't put the gruntwork in necessary to really take advantage a next-gen interface as it relates to keeping track of emails, social networking, IM and the correspondences of more than four people. All that said, Nokia isn't claiming that the 5800 is the be all end all, is releasing it with a very aggressive price point (€279 unlocked), and promises more where this came from.
The phone ships this fall in Europe, and will show up next year in the States without a carrier, though hopefully it picks up one soon -- a $50 subsidised price tag could turn this thing into a hit if the US carriers don't sit on it too long.
iPhanboy calling it a clone in 3... 2... 1...
I think you've set the tone to deter any icomments, but I just set one to be defied. Now there will be iPhone comments...
Clone!
That's not a clone...it's a fat short and ugly device.
That's not a clone...it's a fat short and ugly device.
That's not a clone...it's a fat short and ugly device.
That's not a clone...it's a fat short and ugly device.
If u wanted proof that apple fans cant think for themselves look above
Its a clone of a clone of a clone of a clone of a clone of a clone...
This is disappointing! Why in the heck didn't Nokia really go after the iPhone with this?? The hardware is fine, at least the shape and screen is, I don't know about the processor and graphics chip. But what they really need to do is focus on the interface.
No matter what an iphone fan boy like you say I'm ditching my iphone and buy this for obvious reasons. look at the specs and it's capabilities at a low price. i can do more with this device. iphone is already boring ...watching only junk youtube videos and could not even watch cnn news on the web? it's useless and i still have to use my pc. I'll buy this phone to liberate me from my pc anywhere. with my iphone i can't do that! sometimes i like to throw it!
if i see this phone i soooooooooooo dont wanna use it. IPHONE rocks. So love it to control i tunes via WIFI. how cool is that. and all the tools after jailbreaking making it even more worth the money. All the others can try. maybe in 2 years they come up to the level of IPHONE . haha maybe.
this is so ugly mobile! I am so dissappointed on Nokia. And I think that the user interface is not very userfriendly.
Few days ago I thought that I am going to buy this mobile, but hell no anymore. Shame on you Nokia!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP3YNcSOMlg
275 Euros unlocked.... this will be so mine.
Thanks for the video. S60 Touch is even slower than most people expected. Typical S60.
So, who decided to bring an iPhone and take three shots of the 5800 and iPhone on top of each other but no shots of them side by side whatsoever? Seriously, guys...
Really Impressed by Nokia's touch screen 5800. I think the fact that it comes with 8G and the slot is awesome. 3.2 Camera rocks and the home screen looks great. WiFi and GPS at the price there selling it for rocks. And Might I say UNLOCKED!!!! Oh MAN.
Sweeeeeeeat !!! I love Symbian OS S60.
an up for that!
totally agree, Nokia did a nice job on the interface, and the Nokia that I know will keep putting updates for it improving every performance aspect possible, making this -possibly- the best touch interface in the near future.
Looks like quiet an epic fail on Nokia's part, I mean seriously it took an outrageous amount of time to get to this finished product, and the fact that Nokia wont even slap on their N series title.
Wow... didn't a class assignment was that big of a deal. I think it's a great phone. Great phones are great with or without a prestigious label.
Lol tell me about it. I find it just more intresting that this isn't even high end device and with a dirt cheap price for what it does and what it got.
I mean what kind of device will the N or E series TS flagship be at the start of next year?
Not anything exciting, but it's a touch screen XpressMusic phone with very good specs at a great price so I wouldn't say it's a fail.
I think that's probably because Nokia always stated it was going to be mid-range, not an N-series.
Just a thought.
WOW! This phone really makes the iPhone look the polished turd it is.
...look LIKE the...
But the iPhone is amazing. :)
The idiots that buy that ugly fruit are amazing.
Well, since it was always going to be a resistive touchscreen - which is the preference in Europe and Asia - rather than a capacitive touchscreen I'm not sure how that's a surprise.
Looks like a pretty solid mid-range unit. I suspect Nokia will use this first device to iron out any bugs and then roll out an improved N-Series that's all singing, all dancing. I like the fact you can select your keyboard and although the browser may be a bit iffy you can always install Opera 9.5 I suppose. Plus hot swapping FTW!
Finaly, as anyone who's bought a Nokia smartphone will know, Nokia's launch firmware is always shite although they do release upgrades pretty quickly.
(preparing to get Low Ranked)
It's super slow.
Has a super old UI.
And is super clunky.
The funniest part was when the accelerometer took 4 seconds to realize the photo needs to be rotated, only to show a 1) Blank screen, followed by a 2) "Loading icon", followed by a 3) Rotated photo at last.
Nokia, I wish I could welcome you to next-gen mobile UIs with this phone.
But a typical Nokia build quality though.
Well, yeah. Like I said, Nokia's prototype - and generally first issue - firmware is shite. The N95 was slow as treacle when it launched but speeded up hugely when patches were released.
This is a prototype remember.
Seriously though, they've had long enough to get this thing out of the prototype phase. Everyone has known they've been working on a competitor to the iPhone since it launched. I'd hardly say they can use that as an excuse at this point...
Nokias generally have good build quality in my experience.
ANd, yeah, its just a pre-release unit.
I don't think Nokia has ever tried to make a direct competitor to the iPhone, given how their N-series is wildly more populat than the iPhone is.
I see this more as a first attempt by Nokia to make a touchscreen phone, of which there are a lot of, and there was a few of before iPhone, and given how they're putting it in the mid-range category, I don't see how it could be seriously called an attempt at taking the iPhone head on.
If you really want to get into it, Apple is technically trying to make a Nokia killer ;)
@TrueDis
Well maybe, but remember we only saw Apple's immediate pre-release version of the iPhone after they'd been working on it for three years so they had that long to iron out all the bugs.
If I buy one of these - and I'm sorely tempted - it'll be six weeks or so after launch when they bring revised firmware out.
@ Mark
I guess that says little about the G1 witch took about as long to develop and didn't seem to roll out as polished as the original iPhone or the tube for that matter. I'm sorry to say. I still cant grasp how HTC and Google fucked that up. Then again Android is in Beta as oppose to Symbian evolving over the past few years. I guess I'm just a little let down. The one thing I guess we can all agree on is that Winmo SUCKS.
With the under $400 price tag (unlocked/unbranded), it's a very decent phone with great specs (3G, WiFi, aGPS, 3.2MP camera with AF/Flash, great screen).
Really liking that media shortcut on the upper part of the device. Well i'm 100% that this phone can't fail at least in Nokia's markets, but will it totally blow up the bank... we will see.
I'm really suprised about the device and UI looks better than expected and thinking how much you can change the looks and what not for your likings. Price especially is cheaper than anybody even dreamed.
I find some of these Engadget Iphone vs 5800Xm comments kind of funny thought :D C'mon Engadget you are based in USA, but haven't seen any other blog talking 5800 like you are.
I think its pretty cool - its not an iphone but its a lot cheaper - plus the comes with music is really going to add a hell of a lot to it. Unlimited songs for download that you get to keep. - ok you can only play them on nokia phones/devices and pc's but since all my music in the lounge is streamed from a PC I don't care!
wait this thing has wifi and gps too??!! wow, i am having a hard time now deciding between this and the g1 now. especially since HTC really screwed themselves by not putting a normal headphone jack on that phone. i like the form factor on the 5800 one way better.
I'm goign to bet that some S60 programmer cracks that protection and releases an app which, since, Nokia can't veto it centrally means we'll all be able to use it.
The beauty of a non-Draconian app policy, methinks.
Uh, I'm all for hating on the App Store, but really? You just described a jailbroken iPhone.
I did. The difference is you don't have to void your warranty this way.
Not to mention that Nokia doesn't try to brick your phone every time you 'crack' it.
"Panning around the page is also jittery, perhaps a tad worse than the G1 -- nobody has managed to pull off iPhone smooth yet in this department."
Has anyone used the Opera Mobile (not the Mini) Browser? I use it on WinMo. They also have it for S60. It is an awesome browser that is a step up above Safari for iPhone. Older versions have flash. The new beta will have it, but it is currently disabled until the final release.
So the built in browser is crappy. Internet Explorer mobile is crap too. Opera has made a much better one that can work on this phone. They'll probably have an Android version too.
14.5 mm thick. Not crazy fat. But fat enough that you don't want your friends to see.
Am I the only one who thinks all the positive comments HAVE to have been paid by Nokia? That software is the uttermost garbage I've seen in a long while. They have miles to go to match the iPhone or any other touch phone for that sake (well the G1 seemed quite beta as well).
Lol in Engadget? You mean this USA based blog that got Mac adds time to time? Sure.
Got a say that Engadget again did pick the best parts of the UI to the front screen again....
Yes you are although most people in here now think that you are a douchebag if it's any consolation.
the digital keypad looks so cheesy, i prefer using the physical number pads
no GPS?