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Maybe ill wait for their next touch device =/]]>Oct 2nd 2008 7:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/Oct 3rd 2008 1:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/
The Iphone is sleeker but the functionality is just not there. The crippled bluetooth and Camera are deal breakers for me. Iphone is not that popular in Europe. I can't even remember seeing someone with one. I see Nokia n95 all the time.

]]>Oct 3rd 2008 6:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/Oct 2nd 2008 3:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/Oct 2nd 2008 3:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/Oct 2nd 2008 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/You can't "revert back" to something. Sorry if I sound like an asshole, I just hate it when people use incorrect grammar.

Anyway, I think that there are different advantages and disadvantages for using either fingers or a stylus to interact with a phone, but at the end of the day, I'd rather have stylus support.]]>Oct 2nd 2008 3:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/Oct 2nd 2008 3:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/Oct 3rd 2008 6:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/Oct 2nd 2008 8:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/I hate phones with stylii]]>Oct 2nd 2008 3:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/Oct 2nd 2008 3:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/Oct 2nd 2008 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/Oct 2nd 2008 3:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/Oct 2nd 2008 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/
First, I went to the Nokia website linked to from the story and click on the movie that seems most like what I was looking for. I was rewarding with a movie that had some completely annoying techno crap as the soundtrack. I killed that before I got too far because it made my head hurt. Seriously, is this phone just for Europeans and other people with no taste in music?

Then I clicked through to this page. Notice the seven (seven!?) product videos. I played the first one, which has no voiceover and no is just a random series of short feature demos. WTF? At this point I lost interest.

Nokia, it's time to fire all the engineers working in marketing and hire some real marketing people. You also might want to hire some Americans for the marketing in the states since we are Xenophobic and we generally don't trust talking heads with foreign accents. Lame, but true.

Bottom line: this might be a great phone, but I'll never know because NOKIA'S MARKETING IS SO AWFUL.]]>Oct 2nd 2008 3:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/Oct 2nd 2008 3:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/
This is why US companies produce localized versions of their advertising when they market their products globally, even in other English-speaking parts of the world:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCvR9Z2R7R8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-3MtYn9W5w

I don't know why Nokia doesn't get this.

So, Marcelo, why exactly am I a douche?]]>Oct 2nd 2008 4:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/
Dude, idiots like you is why the rest of the international community hates Americans. What a dumb thing to say.]]>Oct 2nd 2008 7:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/
Hopefully I'll be 8 or so months in by the time this is released so I can do some sort of deal to get this.]]>Oct 2nd 2008 3:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/Oct 2nd 2008 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/Oct 2nd 2008 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/Oct 2nd 2008 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/
Neeeeeeeeext!!!!]]>Oct 2nd 2008 3:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/
Also, it's gonna be used for guitar hero http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/Various/Nokia+5800+XpressMusic/news.asp?c=9278]]>Oct 2nd 2008 6:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/Oct 4th 2008 12:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/
Pros
A2DP
Bluetooth syncing for music, photos, contacts, and calendar for both Windows and Mac
Documents to Go is available for the S60 platform (not sure if touch controls will be allowed)
fairly decent app store through Nokia's site, handango, yahoo mobile
Mail has always been easy to set up

Cons
Small album art display
unknown 3rd party app support for resistive touchscreen controls
storage limit
Slow responsiveness to touch commands
no built in app store
Symbian S60 is not as widely used in the US

overall I give the phone a 7 out of 10. Knocking off a point for useability, no built in app store, and storage capacity options.

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Plus, guitar hero will use it http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/Various/Nokia+5800+XpressMusic/news.asp?c=9278]]>Oct 2nd 2008 6:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/
guitar pick is in the strap , so it will be a handy option sometimes]]>Oct 3rd 2008 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/
concerning the phone itself - it's an awfully tempting deal for the price (and unlocked, no less!), and since i really would like a phone with gps, i'm almost considering this. but then, the resistive screen and wonky software are real dealbreakers for me. i mean, even in their official promo vids they dont get the buttons to work sometimes. that is not something i want to see in an ad.]]>Oct 2nd 2008 9:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://share.ovi.com

]]>Oct 2nd 2008 5:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/
They made the screen too narrow. Are you kidding me? No full qwerty keyboard? Only if you use a stylus? Phone seems slow too. Interface isn't attractive.

Got my N95 8GB in december 2007, could have renewed my contract in June this year. Awaited October for the release of all these new phones. HTC Dream (T-Mobile G1) coming to Europe Q1 2009 ffs, HTC Diamond HD.. same slow processor as the Diamond Touch en Diamond Pro? Come on. Sony Ericsson Xperia seems to be a let down as well, very slow responding in the clips I've seen. Samsung? Hell no not burning my fingers with their poor software.

Maybe I should go sim-only for a year or something..

Nokia you broke my heart.]]>Oct 2nd 2008 5:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/Oct 2nd 2008 7:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/Oct 2nd 2008 5:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/nokia-and-s60-to-go-multi-touch--473026]]>Oct 2nd 2008 7:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/Oct 2nd 2008 5:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/
It seems to get worse as the phone gets older, possible a shared memory with storage capacity memory, but it's very difficult to put up with.

Moving to an iPhone 3G isn't exactly the dream i expected to be honest with similar tinges of slow down but from that video it seems the iPhone does look slicker (when it's not crashing or loosing signal entirely)

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]]>Oct 2nd 2008 7:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/< I really want to love them so badly....but a guitar pick? :|]]>Oct 2nd 2008 6:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/02/nokias-5800-xpressmusic-phone-intimately-detailed-on-video/
I was a big fan of Nokia for a long time, but I feel like they just don't get it any more, that phone looks incredibly awkward and frustrating to use. There is little to no visual feedback when you interact with it, it seems slow, the menu system looks terrible, the screen is too small and despite all that it's thick as hell.

And let's not forget that it's running Symbian, quite possibly the worst embedded OS I've ever had the misfortune to use (not counting Windows Mobile). Symbian is just a bad operating system, the menus are confusing and hard to navigate, it's fairly unstable for an embedded OS and it just feels terrible to use.

Nokia, wake up. You can't just keep shoehorning new phones with new hardware onto the clusterfuck that is Symbian OS and expect to succeed, especially with the iPhone and Android phones on the market now.]]>Oct 2nd 2008 7:24PM