http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/Oct 12th 2008 7:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/Oct 12th 2008 8:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/Oct 12th 2008 8:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/Oct 12th 2008 8:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/
Everyone's stock has fallen a lot lately. And I mean everyone. Technology has done the worst, but it's all of them; Apple, Google, RIM, etc. But, I'm optimistic that the market will rebound.]]>Oct 12th 2008 9:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/
Apple's stock is based a lot on hype. Hype is what drives the company. Hype makes everyone excited for the next iPhone/iPod/Macs, and what drives hypes? Rumors. Thus, all of these "rumors" may or may not be legit, but it still drives the stock.

Take a look at Macworld '08. A LOT of hype building up to it. iPhone this, iPod that, and when Macworld ended, Apple didn't match the hype with it's releases. Thus, the stock price plummeted. You'll notice after Tuesday that if Apple releases the necessary products to match the hype, then the stock will go up.]]>Oct 12th 2008 9:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/
Share prices have nothing to do with "investors". They are determined by "traders". Yeah. The guys and gals you see on CNBC with blue coats on the floor. Trading is done using borrowed money and credit and since there is a credit crunch, these traders have no option but to offload their "holdings" in Apple. Sometimes massively and at dirt cheep prices.

"Investors" are interested in stuff like "dividends" not the price of the stock. The Credit Outlook for Apple was downgraded not because Apple as a company is doing bad, but consumer market is doing worse. So on Thanksgiving, if the choice is between a Turkey Dinner for the family (Food) and iPod nano (Luxury) then the Turkey Dinner will win hands down. This is not a good news for Apple.]]>Oct 12th 2008 10:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/
Exactly, and Apple continues to screw company owners by NOT PAYING DIVIDENDS.

Apple is not a struggling startup that's pumping every dollar of revenue into R&D or capital expenditures. Therefore, there's no excuse for not paying dividends. Look at any reference tome on investing, and the refrain is the same: The best long-term investments have always been companies that PAY DIVIDENDS.

Pretending that the stock would go up forever was stupid. Anyone with a brain knew it then, and boy does everyone know it now.]]>Oct 12th 2008 11:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/you don't think that insurance companies and Banks have taken the biggest loss? I mean, sure, 30% from RIM, 30% from Apple, and simillar drops in most tech companies is awful, but just look at where the economic issues are. L bros, AIG, WaMu, all failed. Apple isn't showing any signs of collapsing, nor does it need government aid.

oh, and as while I don't fancy Mac OS, I am a fan of Apple hardware design, and an $800 9300gs laptop sounds perfect for windows+linux. I'm psyched.]]>Oct 13th 2008 12:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/Oct 12th 2008 11:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/Well Said. That's why Apple shares are doing so bad, since shares of companies that don't pay dividends perform really well in a Bull Market and terribly in a Bear Market. FYI, I think, Apple used to pay dividends till 1995 or something,]]>Oct 13th 2008 12:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/
If the leaks were intensional, Apple won't have shut down ThinkSecret and the many articles here. I know there's a marketing strategy that uses anticipation to build hype, but Apple like to just drop the bomb.

@ All discussing about stock,

Please. Investing in any stock is all about valuation and nothing about hype. Any transaction is a buy and a sell. Someone made a better decision, and someone made a wrong decision. Obviously, the one who did more homework wins. People who buy or sell on hype are just gambling. Apple's prices fell partly because of the economic meltdown, partly because of worrying over Steve's health, and partly because of analysts were estimating that Apple will not meet its 08 target by a big margin. Come October's Q4 report, we'll know more. Keep in mind, at current price, 20+% of the stock price is cash. Not liquidated Apple assets. Cash. But why bother punching your calculators when there's more fun speculating or crying hype foul on stocks, right? ]]>Oct 13th 2008 3:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/Oct 13th 2008 4:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/Oct 13th 2008 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/Oct 12th 2008 8:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/


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rly? speaker holes]]>Oct 13th 2008 2:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/Oct 12th 2008 8:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/Oct 12th 2008 10:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/
Oh well, small price to pay for awesomeness.]]>Oct 12th 2008 8:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/Oct 12th 2008 9:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/Oct 13th 2008 12:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/Oct 12th 2008 8:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/
not that it doesnt perfectly describe this situation.]]>Oct 12th 2008 8:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/Oct 12th 2008 11:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/
2.4Ghz is good for me and I'll upgrade the ram at some point. I would have prefered them going ATI and perhaps AMD (its cheaper). I had a X2 2.0 GHZ in my old laptop and Vista is only slightly faster on the Macbook with 2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo.

Sure the X3100 could be faster, but I have dedicated gaming pc and an xbox and X3100 runs Aero fine and light gaming.]]>Oct 12th 2008 8:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/Oct 12th 2008 8:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/Oct 12th 2008 8:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/Oct 12th 2008 9:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/
And perhaps nVidia is faster, but why would you want faster when their whole 8000 series line up is failing. And I suggested ATI since its faster than what Intel has to offer.

Yes I will agree the LED backlit will be nice, but honestly I'd rather want quality. I sold the replacement HP I got because of the bad customer service and quality on it (WiFi Failed, known issue with extended warranty on alot different HP Laptops). So in buying a laptop, I bought a brand that still has US Technical Support on first pick up, better customer satisfaction and quality than most and I looked at the parts such as avoiding nVidia. nVidia needs to show their current chips are okay before I trust them again, because even Microsoft showed that nVidia is reponsible for 25%+ of Vista crashes, so your JARGON about ATI Drivers being bad is way off when ATI/AMD has less crashes.]]>Oct 12th 2008 9:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/some things are based on facts.......core2duo >x2 >coreduo
nvidia 280 gtx > any single card ati offering
yes nvidia had some problems with drivers when vista first came out but if you truly think ati's drivers are better then you need to get you head checked for a little bug known as BFD( Blind
Fanboy Disorder) One last thing, the overheating problem with nvidias mobile gpu's only affected the 8600 series ( which if why apple is offering to replace/repair any MBP with a 8600 in it ]]>Oct 12th 2008 9:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/some things are based on facts.......core2duo >x2 >coreduo
nvidia 280 gtx > any single card ati offering
yes nvidia had some problems with drivers when vista first came out but if you truly think ati's drivers are better then you need to get you head checked for a little bug known as BFD( Blind
Fanboy Disorder) One last thing, the overheating problem with nvidias mobile gpu's only affected the 8600 series ( which if why apple is offering to replace/repair any MBP with a 8600 in it ]]>Oct 12th 2008 9:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/I never once said the X2 was faster than the Core 2 Duo. I did say the difference is not as big as you and others make it seem.
In addition, regarding ATI Drivers. I'm not blind. I have several computers in the house, and have no issues with ATI under Vista. Further its funny you finally admit that nVidia has a host of Vista Driver issues but somehow ATI which never did initially (as my first Vista computer had ATI) does now... makes no sense.
Also The Register out of the UK said all 8000 series chips were faulity, which Engadget reported on as well. Also nVidia is being sued by it own shareholders for withholding information about faulty chips for "8 Months".]]>Oct 12th 2008 10:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/macbook-macbook-pro-rumor-roundup/the macbook pro will be very different, i don't see why make them so similar without merging lines, and i don't see why merge lines when people will pay 100 dlls just for the PRO suffix.

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