http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/ Engadget Comments for Motorola's Krave ZN4 acquired, photographed http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 1:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 1:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 2:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 3:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/
I'm not being funny here, but in this day and age this should be a fucking given. ]]>Oct 12th 2008 5:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 1:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 1:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 1:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/
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Really?]]>Oct 12th 2008 1:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/After using LG and Motorola phones on other carriers, I actually PREFER the Verizon OS. Easier to navigate, more practical, menus are better, and it's actually good looking. Give it a try before bashing it.]]>Oct 13th 2008 1:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 4:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/
That's the good thing about smartphones. They're rarely full of branding. Occasionally somebody might put a logo on the case, but that's it. Hopefully they can resist the temptation to do so by Android being open-source.]]>Oct 12th 2008 4:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 7:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 7:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/
VCAST splattered everywhere. Look, we get it. TV on your phone. Nobody cares.

Branding different types of messages. TXT and PIX and VID are stupid names, at the very least, drop the stupid capitalization. I want to take a picture, not take and send PIX.

Putting all the apps under the "get it now" menu. Confusing, and generally designed to rack up accidental data charges.

Ugly arial font. Windows 3.1 doesn't belong on a modern device.

No way to transfer pictures without paying. The lack of OBEX is a real problem here, especially since sending an MMS takes a long time and has a tendency to scale down the pic.

Ugly, boxy, red, ui widgets. This goes along with the arial font, it just looks horrendous.

Slow performance on non-LG phones. I realize that motorola phones have crappy internals, but it really is ridiculous how slow they are. OTOH, the LGs are handled very nicely, I applaud them on creating a responsive interface on them.

Now, i have messed with the newer version of the chocolate slider, and i must say, I'm impressed. They've come a long way since the early days. But it's still missing some key functionality in parts, some things that are still best fixed by flashing back to factory firmware.]]>Oct 12th 2008 11:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/-No more Arial font.
-Vcast is barely anywhere anymore.
-Verizon calls it Picture, Video, and TXT Messages now. (Yes, still TXT. Oh well.)
-It's no longer "Get It Now." It's more appropriately called "Media Center."
-You can change the fonts on the Voyager. On the enV2, you can change the themes, which can change the font.

-What are you talking about no transferring pictures? To my surprise after getting my enV2, they've pretty much opened everything on the phone. You can send photos to a computer or printer, it has object push and file transfer, and phonebook transfers. There's really nothing to complain about anymore.

-The default UI isn't even red anymore. You get many themes to choose from, and I must say they're nicer than most phones out there. And I'm talking about real themes here, each one is a complete overhaul. No more changing the background color and calling it a "theme." I don't even think other phones' firmware can do a complete overhaul like this.
You can even customize how you want the main menu to appear (Grid, List, or Classic).

-Motorola actually fixed a lot of the lag problems on their newest phones, and are actually making a nice UI instead of sticking to the barebones one.

You obviously haven't used one of the newer Verizon phones. Much to my surprise, I am more than pleased and I actually prefer it to the default firmware on Motorola, LG, and Sony Ericsson phones for AT&T.]]>Oct 23rd 2008 2:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 14th 2008 10:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/
Looks like you're not as important as you thought.]]>Oct 12th 2008 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 6:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Can't see it being too popular honestly. ]]>Oct 12th 2008 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 2:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/It is a lot like their older Ming that was release only in China, except the Ming ran a linux OS, and was GSM.
While I wish this was GSM, I might be tempted to buy this. (I am a sucker for flip phones)]]>Oct 12th 2008 1:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 6:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 1:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/
Otherwise its not bad.

Reminds me of their old a920, a1000 a1010 handsets...]]>Oct 12th 2008 1:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/
I'm on Verizon and im still not sure i would get this phone though. Touch Pro, please.]]>Oct 12th 2008 1:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 22nd 2008 1:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 3:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 5:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 6:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 7:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 1:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 2:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/
That aside, I don't know what to say about this phone... I certainly thinks it looks cool but... Motorola has a pretty bad stigmata attached to its brand. We'll wait and see.]]>Oct 12th 2008 2:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/but did you mean to say "stigma"
or are you saying motorola's got crucifixion marks?
]]>Oct 12th 2008 3:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/
"not to be a grammar nazi but did you mean to say "

And that expression is exactly what I wanted to say... If you're gonna be a vocabulary nazi at least research... as for my mistake... I apologize. something about the fact that I'm not English...]]>Oct 12th 2008 4:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/
"not to be a grammar nazi but did you mean to say 'Motorola has some pretty bad stigmata attached to its brand'"
... ]]>Oct 12th 2008 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 2:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 2:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/
If I'm not mistaken, it operates similar to a touchscreen, using many very thin wires that are not visible running across the entire face of the plastic]]>Oct 12th 2008 3:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 5:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/
One thing Moto do well on their handsets is small details like that. ]]>Oct 12th 2008 5:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 2:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 4:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/
Way too chunky]]>Oct 19th 2008 1:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/Oct 12th 2008 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/12/motorolas-krave-zn4-acquired-photographed/
also, you couldnt hold it sideways very easily either]]>Oct 12th 2008 4:09PM